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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 766201" data-attributes="member: 812">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bad character, or bad role playing, or bad DM?Well, duh. So what?The fact that a character isn't good at something doesn't make them a bad character. You're saying that since this guy made a character that can't sweet-talk the town guard, he should be punished? Or discouraged from making such characters? Rubbish.A character who sucks at things other than melee combat doesn't prevent the campaign from including things other than melee combat. He's just not going to be very good at those things.And that's okay. That's fun, even. There's plenty of characters who aren't much good at melee combat. Should they be punished, too?This whole debate is just silly. If you'd play the game using the rules, this would be a non-issue. Charisma matters for Charisma-related things. Duh. If a player wants to create a character with a low Charisma (not like 8 is all that low), then that's great. If they then want to try using their Charisma skills to influence people, well, they're going to have less luck than other characters.If he thinks he should get bonuses for cool descriptions, you either rule that he does or he doesn't. I reward players for innovative ideas and give bonuses in all situations if a player describes something with particular imagination and flair. Combat, the ball, the market, whatever. Never more than +2 (and that only for really outrageous notions) but sure. A player who's really trying hard and paying attention? Why not reward him?And if he gives you a good description, gets a +1 and still rolls crappy because of his lack of skill points, have fun describing how the social reject screwed up his attempt to be smooth and charming. You'd do the same thing if the wizard rolled a 1 on his attack roll, wouldn't you?Or don't give bonuses for cool descriptions and be done with it. Easy.Sheesh. Let's get back to something interesting, like the protein content of tuna water, okay?</blockquote>

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