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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 767540" data-attributes="member: 944">True. The problem really only arises when the players don't value the characters they are playing anywayThis is a very slight thread deviation but ....For some reason my group (who is great in my Buffy game) was infurated by a Vision of Escaflowne/Pokethulu/Steampunk GURPS game I ran The end result is after they captured the Kid Cultists (Azg, Misker and Brok) they commenced with the torturingThey don't usually do that sort of thing. I got the impression it was retailion for bad puns, cuthuliod horrors (with a 3/4 phasing thingy) and  a general game disatisfactionHappy players don't screw around with game world most of time. Still if I did what DocMoriartty was planning (make a minor hit on some prices) it wouldn't cause me problems.My only complaint with the good Doctors post was his seeming resentment with the players choice of character. I look at it this wayTell them what to expect up frontSet the up front limits let them play what they like. Keep the party harmoniousAs GM I could care less what people play within those limits. In fact I relish the variety</blockquote>