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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7403622" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I wonder what the math of this actually is. Like, what is actually the odds that a 2d6 will beat a 3d6 or a 4d6? What is the odds 3d6 will roll higher than 4d6? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So is it the case that 18d6 will roll higher than 8d6 at least 999 times out of 1000? And by comparison, what are the odds that 1d20+8 rolls higher than 1d20+18?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>AD&D definitely supports bringing low level characters into the party better that more recent editions.</p><p></p><p>The biggest problem I'm having with the later editions zero to hero model that assumes replacement characters of the same level as the dead/retired character is conceptually figuring out where those replacement characters come from. When the party was low level, adding a character of 1st-4th level was fairly trivial. The demographics assumed such characters were relatively common, and it was easy to assume the hero was replaced by some local hero. But as the party has leveled up, they've diverged from the assumed demographics more and more and become more and more the 'big darn heroes' of the setting. At this point, character replacement is getting more and more challenging to conceptualize. If the party is six levels deep in the lost hidden dungeon of great doom, and the party is of a level that they are regional superheroes, it becomes harder and harder to hand wave away where this new character with thews of steel came from and why he is here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7403622, member: 4937"] I wonder what the math of this actually is. Like, what is actually the odds that a 2d6 will beat a 3d6 or a 4d6? What is the odds 3d6 will roll higher than 4d6? So is it the case that 18d6 will roll higher than 8d6 at least 999 times out of 1000? And by comparison, what are the odds that 1d20+8 rolls higher than 1d20+18? AD&D definitely supports bringing low level characters into the party better that more recent editions. The biggest problem I'm having with the later editions zero to hero model that assumes replacement characters of the same level as the dead/retired character is conceptually figuring out where those replacement characters come from. When the party was low level, adding a character of 1st-4th level was fairly trivial. The demographics assumed such characters were relatively common, and it was easy to assume the hero was replaced by some local hero. But as the party has leveled up, they've diverged from the assumed demographics more and more and become more and more the 'big darn heroes' of the setting. At this point, character replacement is getting more and more challenging to conceptualize. If the party is six levels deep in the lost hidden dungeon of great doom, and the party is of a level that they are regional superheroes, it becomes harder and harder to hand wave away where this new character with thews of steel came from and why he is here. [/QUOTE]
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