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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 484551" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>Actually, that does not make the infinite metamagic impossible, just significantly harder.&nbsp; I assume that you mean 10+ # of levels gotten for free with spelldancer= perform check DC.&nbsp; In this case, the preceeding tactic will still work if you cast Empowered spells to boost your Cha.&nbsp; However, you now need to cast 2 different spells, which means that you need significantly longer durations to give yourself enough time to cast the next round of both.&nbsp; Also, Cha boosting (to boost perform skill) requires you to roll 4s and takes away the exponential doubling nature of the smack.&nbsp; Of course, I couldn't do the calculations for an optimal route in either case.&nbsp; Just make sure that you get an item of +30 skill so that you can Empower your first Cha boosting spell a ton (since you now increase at an arithmetic rate, not a geometric one).&nbsp; It should also be noted that your Con boost won't really be needed much, so you can Extend it for weeks and you don't really have to worry about it.&nbsp; The Mysticism domain allows you to avoid the Con boosting entirely, since Cha will boost your saves.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 484551, member: 1139"] Actually, that does not make the infinite metamagic impossible, just significantly harder. I assume that you mean 10+ # of levels gotten for free with spelldancer= perform check DC. In this case, the preceeding tactic will still work if you cast Empowered spells to boost your Cha. However, you now need to cast 2 different spells, which means that you need significantly longer durations to give yourself enough time to cast the next round of both. Also, Cha boosting (to boost perform skill) requires you to roll 4s and takes away the exponential doubling nature of the smack. Of course, I couldn't do the calculations for an optimal route in either case. Just make sure that you get an item of +30 skill so that you can Empower your first Cha boosting spell a ton (since you now increase at an arithmetic rate, not a geometric one). It should also be noted that your Con boost won't really be needed much, so you can Extend it for weeks and you don't really have to worry about it. The Mysticism domain allows you to avoid the Con boosting entirely, since Cha will boost your saves. [/QUOTE]

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