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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 2300009" data-attributes="member: 1622">So a large-sized giant polymorphed into a large-sized bear can be animal growthed, but the same is not true if he started out as a human?&nbsp; So... *sometimes* Polymorph stacks with animal growth and sometimes it doesn't?&nbsp; No way.&nbsp; Doesn't make sense.Form altering spells don't count as size altering spells, because they never specifically say they change your size.&nbsp; They just &quot;reset&quot; it to whatever is normal for the form you take.&nbsp; I understand your reasoning that the PC's size is different after casting the spell... but I really don't believe they intended polymorph or wild shape to not stack with the size altering spells.&nbsp; Yes, they didn't want you to be able to cast Enlarge on someone who has cast Righteous Might (I think that's the cleric spell that makes you bigger)... but that's two spells that specifically say that they make you &quot;one size category larger&quot;.&nbsp; Polymorph doesn't work that way.&nbsp; As for the lawyer who said that they didn't put the no stacking rule on polymorph because it doesn't always change your size - that's false logic.&nbsp; If it didn't change your size, then the rule wouldn't come into effect, so there's no reason not to put it there if they intended it to be there.&nbsp; Since they didn't put it there, we must assume they believe as I do, that it is not a size altering effect.-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 2300009, member: 1622"] So a large-sized giant polymorphed into a large-sized bear can be animal growthed, but the same is not true if he started out as a human? So... *sometimes* Polymorph stacks with animal growth and sometimes it doesn't? No way. Doesn't make sense. Form altering spells don't count as size altering spells, because they never specifically say they change your size. They just "reset" it to whatever is normal for the form you take. I understand your reasoning that the PC's size is different after casting the spell... but I really don't believe they intended polymorph or wild shape to not stack with the size altering spells. Yes, they didn't want you to be able to cast Enlarge on someone who has cast Righteous Might (I think that's the cleric spell that makes you bigger)... but that's two spells that specifically say that they make you "one size category larger". Polymorph doesn't work that way. As for the lawyer who said that they didn't put the no stacking rule on polymorph because it doesn't always change your size - that's false logic. If it didn't change your size, then the rule wouldn't come into effect, so there's no reason not to put it there if they intended it to be there. Since they didn't put it there, we must assume they believe as I do, that it is not a size altering effect. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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