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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neo" data-source="post: 508240" data-attributes="member: 4139">Hi vaxalonThere really is no reason why someone cannot have a more in depth system and still have the story, its worked fine for me and i've been GM'ing 23 years.  Sometimes the simple approach works but a lot of the time it depends on the players, I tend to find my lot are rather uninspired if the business they have invested thier hard earned adventuring money into is only ever raised once in a blue moon and simply for a single roll to determine thier profit.  If they are busy in some campaign plot then sure, they wouldn't have much time to spend working out thier business details, but during downtime or if the plot approaches them while they are working or running thier business, then the expanded way of working out the details of your business makes things more involved and relevant to them.I understand that you cannot see how ANYONE can be bothered to do it, but believe me when I say people can and do.Each to thier own, the world is a tapestry of wondrous ideas and ideals..non less precious than the next <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>