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<blockquote data-quote="Dykstrav" data-source="post: 3231458" data-attributes="member: 40522"><p>It depends on what your D&D itch is. Sometimes a new prestige class or a new feat is exactly what you need to scratch it with.</p><p></p><p>I tried playing a warlock once (at first level) and I really hated it. That eldtrich blast isn't really that cool. Despite what people may say, it's not a given that you're going to make that ranged touch attack (especially at lower levels). I was jonesing for a wizard pretty badly by the end of the first session.</p><p></p><p>I'd like to play a swordsage at some point. They may have a lot of "wahoo" behind what they can do, but being limited essentially to a tiny list of effects you can do once per battle is pretty balanced (at least with the 1st-level swordsage I've built to amuse myself). I still want to see it played before I call <em>Tome of Battle</em> broken.</p><p></p><p>All that being said, I do feel like alot of players expect to be able to play anything they damn well please, and somehow you're a naughty DM if you won't let them. Warlocks and <em>Tome of Battle</em> elicit such reactions frequently in my groups. But there always seems to be some goober that wants to play a half-fiend former dread necromancer that has now turned to paladinhood or a Lloth-touched drow warlock or a githzerai vampire gesalt ninja/warblade (yes, these are all characters that I've seriously seen people actually have the nuts big enough to ask to play in campaigns starting at 1st level). If you can't enjoy imagining that you're a pseudo-medieval fighter, how am I supposed to believe that you'll enjoy playing such a weird and alien grab-bag of powers?</p><p></p><p>It's been my experience that the most effective character by the levels are single-classed, standard race characters with only one base class from the <em>Player's Handbook</em>. This alone gives me enough of an incentive to play single-classed clerics and wizards all the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dykstrav, post: 3231458, member: 40522"] It depends on what your D&D itch is. Sometimes a new prestige class or a new feat is exactly what you need to scratch it with. I tried playing a warlock once (at first level) and I really hated it. That eldtrich blast isn't really that cool. Despite what people may say, it's not a given that you're going to make that ranged touch attack (especially at lower levels). I was jonesing for a wizard pretty badly by the end of the first session. I'd like to play a swordsage at some point. They may have a lot of "wahoo" behind what they can do, but being limited essentially to a tiny list of effects you can do once per battle is pretty balanced (at least with the 1st-level swordsage I've built to amuse myself). I still want to see it played before I call [I]Tome of Battle[/I] broken. All that being said, I do feel like alot of players expect to be able to play anything they damn well please, and somehow you're a naughty DM if you won't let them. Warlocks and [I]Tome of Battle[/I] elicit such reactions frequently in my groups. But there always seems to be some goober that wants to play a half-fiend former dread necromancer that has now turned to paladinhood or a Lloth-touched drow warlock or a githzerai vampire gesalt ninja/warblade (yes, these are all characters that I've seriously seen people actually have the nuts big enough to ask to play in campaigns starting at 1st level). If you can't enjoy imagining that you're a pseudo-medieval fighter, how am I supposed to believe that you'll enjoy playing such a weird and alien grab-bag of powers? It's been my experience that the most effective character by the levels are single-classed, standard race characters with only one base class from the [I]Player's Handbook[/I]. This alone gives me enough of an incentive to play single-classed clerics and wizards all the time. [/QUOTE]
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