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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3219734" data-attributes="member: 141">My mind saw &quot;peridot&quot; - really, it did.&nbsp; I don't know why my fingers typed &quot;periapt.&quot;The half-fiend LA does seem high; it seems wrong to charge for DR 10/magic when it is superseded by DR 10/-.&nbsp; Or for SR when it is capped at 35.&nbsp; Or for blasphemy when the caster level is so low.&nbsp; But still, it is worth something.How many Barbarian levels would you have to add to Lutz to make him as strong as Brech?&nbsp; I'm thinking that, except for Terrifying Rage, he's not that much weaker.&nbsp; If in fact he is weaker- I think his strengths are just in different areas.&nbsp; If LA +11 is too much, is LA +4 too little?&nbsp; I think 7 more levels would make Lutz obviously superior.[edit] I'd say Lutz should get 3 more barbarian levels.&nbsp; This will bring the attack roll to a comparable point with Brech; less likely to hit, but more damage if he does hit.&nbsp; Fewer feats, but more advantages from the template:&nbsp; blasphemy, horrid wilting, natural flight etc. are not inconsiderable advantages; Brech has to spend a significant amount of treasure to replicate them.SR I'm still troubled about- how about we uncap the SR gained by the half-fiend template when class levels are involved? In summary, I am proposing that Half-fiend be +8 LA for the purpose of devising high level characters.&nbsp; Almost the mid-point of the Krustian +11 and the Wotcian +4.&nbsp; Does that sound reasonable?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3219734, member: 141"] My mind saw "peridot" - really, it did. I don't know why my fingers typed "periapt." The half-fiend LA does seem high; it seems wrong to charge for DR 10/magic when it is superseded by DR 10/-. Or for SR when it is capped at 35. Or for [i]blasphemy[/i] when the caster level is so low. But still, it is worth something. How many Barbarian levels would you have to add to Lutz to make him as strong as Brech? I'm thinking that, except for Terrifying Rage, he's not that much weaker. If in fact he is weaker- I think his strengths are just in different areas. If LA +11 is too much, is LA +4 too little? I think 7 more levels would make Lutz obviously superior. [edit] I'd say Lutz should get 3 more barbarian levels. This will bring the attack roll to a comparable point with Brech; less likely to hit, but more damage if he does hit. Fewer feats, but more advantages from the template: [i]blasphemy, horrid wilting[/i], natural flight etc. are not inconsiderable advantages; Brech has to spend a significant amount of treasure to replicate them. SR I'm still troubled about- how about we uncap the SR gained by the half-fiend template when class levels are involved? In summary, I am proposing that Half-fiend be +8 LA for the purpose of devising high level characters. Almost the mid-point of the Krustian +11 and the Wotcian +4. Does that sound reasonable? [/QUOTE]

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