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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2475370" data-attributes="member: 31734">Sure, but that has nothing to do with my point.  During a normal attack or during an AoO, when you cleave to a new target, nothing that new target did caused his guard to be lowered to allow the cleave, in either case.  So, why separate out the case during an AoO? Cleaving is not a property of attacks of opportunity.  It is a property of an attack.  Justifying its removal based on your flavor is, despite what Thanee claims, is arbitrary.  IMO, there would be no difference to disallow, say, weapon focus to function during an AoO (aside from the 'same bonus' clause obviously).  If that happens, you have more serious issues than worrying about Cleave.  You should be worrying about finding a sane DM.  So, why does someone always bring up the bag o' rats nonsense when this issue is discussed?</blockquote>