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<blockquote data-quote="carldot34" data-source="post: 4246028" data-attributes="member: 64326"><p><strong>Moving into threatened squares</strong></p><p></p><p>Very true Mort-Q EXCEPT that (in the hypothectical discussion here) charging would be an exception. Moving into a threatened square does not provoke an AoO, true.</p><p>Running 15 feet plus, waving your sword above your head and screaming your head off ought not to provoke AoO from statues, rocks, etc, true. </p><p>I actually LIKE the idea of hordes of kobolds breaking like waves over one of my PC's fighters. I don't like the same fighter charging up and attacking my BBEG without any risk (ignoring any guards my BBEG might have. I don't want my Big Bad Evil Guy to be less fearsome because my fighter can charge up and whale on him without being harmed.</p><p>I also want my party to stick together and support each other. I am NOT going to encourage a rule that has the fighter (the supposed party defender) running 60 feet ahead of the party because he want's firtblood on the bad guy. I'll not stop him doing it but I won't let him have an easy ride. He should be defending his mates, not hogging the glory. 4e encourages teamwork, not solo grandstanding, which was much easier to do in 3.x </p><p></p><p>I think the arguement for no AoO falls into two camps:</p><p>1. You are a player and don't want even the risk of damage. Go for the no AoO.</p><p>2. You are a GM but like to cream the players as often as possible. Go for no AoO.</p><p></p><p>All of this is moot until WoTC give us a definitive answer. Yes, I have read the answer from Customer Services. 'Charging provokes attacks of oppotunity just like movement does.' This does NOT answer the basic question of the AoO from the target of the charge. 3.x is explicit; the target does NOT get an AoO. I don't think we can extrapolate that to 4e.</p><p></p><p>Carldot34</p><p>"I blame all faults on my parents making poor stat rolls!"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="carldot34, post: 4246028, member: 64326"] [b]Moving into threatened squares[/b] Very true Mort-Q EXCEPT that (in the hypothectical discussion here) charging would be an exception. Moving into a threatened square does not provoke an AoO, true. Running 15 feet plus, waving your sword above your head and screaming your head off ought not to provoke AoO from statues, rocks, etc, true. I actually LIKE the idea of hordes of kobolds breaking like waves over one of my PC's fighters. I don't like the same fighter charging up and attacking my BBEG without any risk (ignoring any guards my BBEG might have. I don't want my Big Bad Evil Guy to be less fearsome because my fighter can charge up and whale on him without being harmed. I also want my party to stick together and support each other. I am NOT going to encourage a rule that has the fighter (the supposed party defender) running 60 feet ahead of the party because he want's firtblood on the bad guy. I'll not stop him doing it but I won't let him have an easy ride. He should be defending his mates, not hogging the glory. 4e encourages teamwork, not solo grandstanding, which was much easier to do in 3.x I think the arguement for no AoO falls into two camps: 1. You are a player and don't want even the risk of damage. Go for the no AoO. 2. You are a GM but like to cream the players as often as possible. Go for no AoO. All of this is moot until WoTC give us a definitive answer. Yes, I have read the answer from Customer Services. 'Charging provokes attacks of oppotunity just like movement does.' This does NOT answer the basic question of the AoO from the target of the charge. 3.x is explicit; the target does NOT get an AoO. I don't think we can extrapolate that to 4e. Carldot34 "I blame all faults on my parents making poor stat rolls!" [/QUOTE]
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