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<blockquote data-quote="smetzger" data-source="post: 1791651" data-attributes="member: 1230"><p>I was thinking overrun at first but I think that bull rush is equally valid.</p><p></p><p>Here is what I would do, which is not 100% btb...</p><p></p><p>When the attackers enters the square of the invisible man, the invisible man gets an AoO.</p><p>If the invisible man does _not_ take his AoO.  Roll for the invisiblity miss chance; if it comes up a hit let the attacker chose bull rush or overrun (either choice allows him to have 'detected' the invisible creature).  If, however, its a miss then the attacker has not detected the invisible man; treat as an overrun and the invisible man can chose to avoid and will go undetected.</p><p></p><p>If the invisible man takes his AoO, let the attacker chose either bull rush or overrun.</p><p></p><p>Of course if the invisible man is a monk he is just going to jump over everyone <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>RainO'Steal: tumbling rules would apply if the attackers ended their charge and had not yet 'encountered' the invisible guy, and the invisible guy then decided to try and tumble passed the oafs.  Or the invisible guy has a readied action to tumble past them; in which case let him make his tumble check and the attackers get spot and listen checks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smetzger, post: 1791651, member: 1230"] I was thinking overrun at first but I think that bull rush is equally valid. Here is what I would do, which is not 100% btb... When the attackers enters the square of the invisible man, the invisible man gets an AoO. If the invisible man does _not_ take his AoO. Roll for the invisiblity miss chance; if it comes up a hit let the attacker chose bull rush or overrun (either choice allows him to have 'detected' the invisible creature). If, however, its a miss then the attacker has not detected the invisible man; treat as an overrun and the invisible man can chose to avoid and will go undetected. If the invisible man takes his AoO, let the attacker chose either bull rush or overrun. Of course if the invisible man is a monk he is just going to jump over everyone :) RainO'Steal: tumbling rules would apply if the attackers ended their charge and had not yet 'encountered' the invisible guy, and the invisible guy then decided to try and tumble passed the oafs. Or the invisible guy has a readied action to tumble past them; in which case let him make his tumble check and the attackers get spot and listen checks. [/QUOTE]
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