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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4731848" data-attributes="member: 1656">There are a few things wrong with this.1. Spring Attack does require a move action, but the wording in the PHB is incorrect.&nbsp; It was corrected in the Special Edition PHB - it now says &quot;When using the attack action with a melee weapon, you can split your move action...&quot; rather than &quot;you can move...&quot;(Basically, the definition of a standard action changed between 3E and 3.5 - in 3E, a standard action included a move, so &quot;the attack action&quot; in 3E included a move but in 3.5 it does not.&nbsp; But the wording of the Spring Attack feat in the initial printing of the 3.5 PHB used phrasing as though the attack action still included a move.)2. Even in the original 3.5 PHB printing, it says &quot;When using the attack action, you...&quot;&nbsp; When you charge - whether as a full round action, or as a standard action when you are restricted to a standard action - you are taking the Charge action.&nbsp; You are not taking the Attack action, therefore you cannot benefit from Spring Attack.&nbsp; The attack you make is part of the Charge action; it is not the Attack action.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4731848, member: 1656"] There are a few things wrong with this. 1. Spring Attack [i]does[/i] require a move action, but the wording in the PHB is incorrect. It was corrected in the Special Edition PHB - it now says "When using the attack action with a melee weapon, you can [i]split your move action[/i]..." rather than "you can move..." (Basically, the definition of a standard action changed between 3E and 3.5 - in 3E, a standard action included a move, so "the attack action" in 3E included a move but in 3.5 it does not. But the wording of the Spring Attack feat in the initial printing of the 3.5 PHB used phrasing as though the attack action still included a move.) 2. Even in the original 3.5 PHB printing, it says "When using the attack action, you..." When you charge - whether as a full round action, or as a standard action when you are restricted to a standard action - you are taking the Charge action. You are not taking the Attack action, therefore you cannot benefit from Spring Attack. The attack you make is part of the Charge action; it is not the Attack action. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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