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<blockquote data-quote="FoxWander" data-source="post: 4822033" data-attributes="member: 1356"><p>Yes, I completely agree with that. Without magic boots that change the rules you cannot charge and use the spring attack feat. They both, separately, use up your entire round of activity and so they can't be combined.</p><p></p><p>But I'm asking how it works with the boots. For anyone who doesn't have the MIC here's the entire relevant quote from the book- "boots of the battle charger allow you to make a charge attack as a standard action (rather than a full-round action), though the charge only includes movement up to your speed (rather than double your speed). You must make the charge attack in the round you activate the boots, or the effect is lost."</p><p></p><p>Now you've got something that changes the rules. Specifically, the boots allow you to use a standard action to (charge) attack. Since, as it's been pointed out, if "attack action" is short-hand for using a standard action to attack, it would seem (to me at least) that <u><strong>with the boots</strong></u> a charge attack IS compatible with the spring attack feat. The boots allow that standard action/"attack action" to be a charge attack- then spring attack allows you to move again afterwards (which you can do anyway after a charge <u><strong>with the boots</strong></u>) without provoking AoOs from your target. It even works with the movement restrictions imposed by both the boots and spring attack- you can't move more than your speed. </p><p></p><p>And honestly, what's the problem with this? You need three feats and a magic item to pull off a moderately easier attack twice a day! Even if you add pounce cheese on top- how is this a game breaker?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FoxWander, post: 4822033, member: 1356"] Yes, I completely agree with that. Without magic boots that change the rules you cannot charge and use the spring attack feat. They both, separately, use up your entire round of activity and so they can't be combined. But I'm asking how it works with the boots. For anyone who doesn't have the MIC here's the entire relevant quote from the book- "boots of the battle charger allow you to make a charge attack as a standard action (rather than a full-round action), though the charge only includes movement up to your speed (rather than double your speed). You must make the charge attack in the round you activate the boots, or the effect is lost." Now you've got something that changes the rules. Specifically, the boots allow you to use a standard action to (charge) attack. Since, as it's been pointed out, if "attack action" is short-hand for using a standard action to attack, it would seem (to me at least) that [u][b]with the boots[/b][/u] a charge attack IS compatible with the spring attack feat. The boots allow that standard action/"attack action" to be a charge attack- then spring attack allows you to move again afterwards (which you can do anyway after a charge [u][b]with the boots[/b][/u]) without provoking AoOs from your target. It even works with the movement restrictions imposed by both the boots and spring attack- you can't move more than your speed. And honestly, what's the problem with this? You need three feats and a magic item to pull off a moderately easier attack twice a day! Even if you add pounce cheese on top- how is this a game breaker? [/QUOTE]
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