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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7838433" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Regarding tome warlock vs wizard for ritual casting, I find the campaign and DM make a difference. Warlocks can find the wizard scrolls and books just as easily as the wizard can, and even NPC wizards are found in adventures.  One would assume they have spell books with rituals.  Published adventures have them.Warlock's going tome hoard anything with the ability to add rituals to their book and have a could of levels to build up beyond the two rituals with which they start.Book of ancient secrets also grants the warlock the ritual caster ability.  This allows casting warlock spells known as rituals too, instead of just slots.  That's a very small list:  unseen servant, illusory script, comprehend languages, contact other plane.  Unseen servant is worth learning (IMO) if the warlock is planning on going tome at 3rd, and not if going any other pact (rely on mage hand instead).  That actually gives 3 rituals plus anything saved by going with the tome.  Unseen servant can be cast as a ritual or normally in a pinch.[USER=6919838]@5ekyu[/USER]: Wizards can cast rituals normally or as rituals only if they take the hit on spells prepped over something else.  I don't recall seeing any wizard do that at lower levels over going for a wider range of  non-ritual spells prepped.  They might later on when they have more preparations but I find they just rely on the rituals in the books.  Clerics and druids are required to prep the rituals before they can cast them; they can always choose to cast as a ritual or normally.  Bards are required to learn spells and can also always cast their spells as rituals or normally.  The point I'm making is wizards don't have to prep the rituals to cast them so they don't normally bother prepping them at all.Between the two I prefer the reliability of the wizard adding rituals as they level up.  I think the warlock overtakes the wizard in the long run.</blockquote>

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