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<blockquote data-quote="Nevvur" data-source="post: 7242458" data-attributes="member: 6783882">Yeah, I was tempted to remark on this as a valid counterpoint to my own thoughts on the warlock, but again, there's nothing in the class description that suggests insanity/enthrallment ever happens with them. The only established cost is that most warlocks perform favors for the patron. Which is fine. Gives players and DMs a lot of latitude in fleshing out the details as suits their story. If such consequences as you describe exist for NPC warlocks in one's game, then PC warlocks can be the special snowflakes who routinely overcome or avoid them. They have that little something extra that enables them to be functional adventurers. Roughly speaking, warlocks are to cultists what clerics are to priests.IMO, that something extra should be identified as their ingenuity and ability to make better sense of esoteric knowledge rather than their willfulness, which doesn't get mentioned even once in their class description. Their spellcasting ability score is literally the only thing that suggests willpower plays a role in their adventuring careers, whereas there are several references to the intellectual functions of the class. See below.[sblock]&quot;Warlocks are seekers of the knowledge that lies hidden in the fabric of the multiverse.&quot;&quot;Drawing on the ancient knowledge of [otherworldly] beings... warlocks piece together arcane secrets...&quot;&quot;More often, the arrangement [between warlock and patron] is similar to that between a master and apprentice.&quot; (suggesting some level of learning/instruction)&quot;Warlocks are driven by an insatiable need for knowledge and power...&quot; [/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nevvur, post: 7242458, member: 6783882"] Yeah, I was tempted to remark on this as a valid counterpoint to my own thoughts on the warlock, but again, there's nothing in the class description that suggests insanity/enthrallment ever happens with them. The only established cost is that most warlocks perform favors for the patron. Which is fine. Gives players and DMs a lot of latitude in fleshing out the details as suits their story. If such consequences as you describe exist for NPC warlocks in one's game, then PC warlocks can be the special snowflakes who routinely overcome or avoid them. They have that little something extra that enables them to be functional adventurers. Roughly speaking, warlocks are to cultists what clerics are to priests. IMO, that something extra should be identified as their ingenuity and ability to make better sense of esoteric knowledge rather than their willfulness, which doesn't get mentioned even once in their class description. Their spellcasting ability score is literally the only thing that suggests willpower plays a role in their adventuring careers, whereas there are several references to the intellectual functions of the class. See below. [sblock]"Warlocks are seekers of the knowledge that lies hidden in the fabric of the multiverse." "Drawing on the ancient knowledge of [otherworldly] beings... warlocks piece together arcane secrets..." "More often, the arrangement [between warlock and patron] is similar to that between a master and apprentice." (suggesting some level of learning/instruction) "Warlocks are driven by an insatiable need for knowledge and power..." [/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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