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<blockquote data-quote="MechaTarrasque" data-source="post: 7242547" data-attributes="member: 6801226">The PHB doesn't talk a lot about people who try and fail to get a class level, but that doesn't mean I don't believe that it is impossible for Doug the Dirt Farmer to poke his eye out the first time he tries to use a sword.&nbsp; My understanding wasn't that warlocks go crazy, but that people who try to be warlocks and fail go crazy from exposure to the patrons.&nbsp; For myself I don't care what stat the warlock uses, unless the patron has to show up every time the warlock levels up (or they get inflicted with aasimar-like dreams).&nbsp; I figure it is easier to fill the &quot;smart guy who negotiates complicated deals with questionable entities&quot; niche with a new wizard subclass than to change the warlock before 5.5 or 6e.&nbsp; If they were willing to borrow from the sorcerer for the lore wizard, and the cleric for the theurge, can the warlock be far behind?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MechaTarrasque, post: 7242547, member: 6801226"] The PHB doesn't talk a lot about people who try and fail to get a class level, but that doesn't mean I don't believe that it is impossible for Doug the Dirt Farmer to poke his eye out the first time he tries to use a sword. My understanding wasn't that warlocks go crazy, but that people who try to be warlocks and fail go crazy from exposure to the patrons. For myself I don't care what stat the warlock uses, unless the patron has to show up every time the warlock levels up (or they get inflicted with aasimar-like dreams). I figure it is easier to fill the "smart guy who negotiates complicated deals with questionable entities" niche with a new wizard subclass than to change the warlock before 5.5 or 6e. If they were willing to borrow from the sorcerer for the lore wizard, and the cleric for the theurge, can the warlock be far behind? [/QUOTE]

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