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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crothian" data-source="post: 2748554" data-attributes="member: 232">Charisma is the only stat that people cheat with.  Hear me out on this one.  Players will place a low stat in Charisma annd then not role play it out that way.  And then DMs let them get away with this type of cheating.  I've seen it plenty of times and games I've played and in conversations on these boards.  But it does depend on the type of game.  If I run a heavy role playing game I as DM can make strength a useless stat.  Or if I let player play dumb character smart, I can make Intelligence a useless stat.  Charisma is only a dud stat when the players cheat and the DMs allows them to get away with it.  Or if the DM is just not a good DM and allows characters with negativbes that don't matter.</blockquote>