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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2748789" data-attributes="member: 1165">I see a lot of insults bandied about when it comes to Charisma, like "your game must be all about combat if your PCs don't use it".I see it as a useless stat unless your class has a special class ability based on it, like sorcerer spells, paladin saves or the Charismatic Hero's Leadership talent tree.I almost never see Charisma, on it's own, separated from the Diplomacy skill when it comes to discussions of RP or flavor. Diplomacy owns Charisma hands-on when it comes to social skills. Ranks just give you a much higher bonus than your ability score. I'd rather take 5 ranks in Diplomacy with Charisma 10 than no ranks in Diplomacy with Charisma 15.Topping it off is the broken Diplomacy skill, which obscures the worth of Charisma. I suggest using Rich Burlew's rules for it.I see it all the time in D20 Modern. I started a Three Kingdoms campaign recently, and the most diplomatic character is a Fast/Dedicated Hero with Diplomacy as an occupation skill - and a Charisma of 12. He achieved Diplomacy scores of 30 at least twice in the second session.Someone has to tell me how that goes. The last time I saw such a system was Alternity. Unfortunately, action points (called last resort points in Alternity) did not refresh unless you spend skill points on them. I saw precisely one last resort point used in two years or so of Alternity gaming.D20 Modern has something like that for the Dedicated Hero - you can use your Wisdom bonus on your action points if you take at least 5 Dedicated levels and choose certain talents. We found more powerful action points to be worth more than more action points.I see a problem with such a house rule in Eberron, too. Classes that use Charisma, like the paladin, turn it into a powerful ability score, independent of Diplomacy. The proposed rule could make the paladin a lot more powerful than intended.</blockquote>

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