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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lamoni" data-source="post: 2750576" data-attributes="member: 12680">Personally, I feel that Charisma isn't too bad.  It is required by several classes and not others.  The same can be said for strength.  However, I also think that Charisma could still use a boost.There have been several suggestions:1. Rewrite the diplomatic skills so they make more sense and scale better.2. Make CHA responsible for will saves (and change Will to init).  Or at least have CHA affect saving throws in some way.3. Have magic items work better for high CHA characters.4. Increase loot for high CHA characters (I don't know how this would work, but maybe some rules with buying and selling using a CHA check for better prices could work).5. Have spells deal more damage according to your CHA modifier6. Use charisma checks in game to determine the probability of favorable random events in game (is there a chain in the truck?).7. Do nothing.  Charisma is a guide to how you should role-play your character.  It doesn't need any other mechanics, just a DM to enforce how you let your character act.I think that I like option 1 a lot, but that doesn't solve the problem too much because only one person in the party needs it.  I have looked at other house rules and might modify a few of them to come up with my own.  I think that option 2 would be the simplest solution that would cause it to affect every character.  Right now I run a sorcerer and everyone else in my party has never had to use Charisma in any way.  They could all have CHA of 4 and it wouldn't have made a difference.  CHA has only improved with each edition, I wonder how it will improve in the next edition?  Of course I'll only buy it after I get enough use out of my 3.5 books so I may be ready for it in about 5 years (that is a whole different topic though).</blockquote>

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