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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 2637638" data-attributes="member: 7883">Bingo.WotC's idea of what I'm supposed to consider "fun" has diverged significantly from what I find fun.Some of the variant stuff out there is really cool.  Much of it my players aren't aware of, unfortunately, but usually once I've shown it to them, they "get it".I still like some WotC stuff.....Heroes of Battle, many of the Eberron books, and some of the FR stuff....but much of it is too vanilla these days.  Everyone has their own poison, I guess.I don't think that D20 companies are always reinventing the wheel, anyways.  I've seen shared material.  My copy of the Witch's Handbook from Green Ronin uses the ritual rules from Relics & Rituals I, for instance.Banshee</blockquote>