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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 2641045" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>If the industry had a central bargaining entity, it would have more power than singular companies. That's what I meant by "fractiious".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if you're argueing or asking, but if you go to the SRD section for D20 Modern, you'll see that significant portions of the books are indeed free, online.</p><p></p><p></p><p>WotC not adding material to the SRD because they feel that publishers are using their material without adding to it in a significant manner, is totally different than a publisher holding on to their material in the fear that people won't buy books that have already sold past their prime. The material the publishers are withholding is material that is already OGL, and can be used by anyone. They're just not making it accessible to folks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Er, this is exactly what the discussion is ABOUT, whether it would hurt or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Two seperate items, both labeled under "support" in my paragraph. Erratta and Updates are Support. My point is, a lot of the third party stuff I was getting was in need of Erratta, and I've yet to see any. Therfor, I don't buy from those companies without verifying that the material is significantly error-free.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They'd be stupid to respond to fan's requests for support? I think there's a fundamental issue there. I'm saying companies should support their older products, and that doing so would benefit them overall as fans return because they know that support is there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And that greater support will benefit them in the long run. Plus, as I said, generating more revenue is true, but they also have higher expectations for revenue, they have Corporate Overlords to please.</p><p></p><p>I'm talking about something like this:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Two seperate issues. It doesn't matter to me WHY something is no longer useful, if the company did further playtesting and found out some feat or PrC was broken, I'd appreciate a fix. It's not mandatory for every product, but it is a plus in the "support" column.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The RPG business is different. The money invested in an RPG company would most likely make more money in many other business models. If they're doing it solely as an investment, then they're doing it wrong. RPG companies have to take their industry and their audience in mind when planning for the future and the long term stability of the market.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Opinions vary.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Er, I said it was pirated, that's what I was talking about. The "free fully formatted" was to contrast the pirated copy versus a nofrills company produced version.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 2641045, member: 2477"] If the industry had a central bargaining entity, it would have more power than singular companies. That's what I meant by "fractiious". I'm not sure if you're argueing or asking, but if you go to the SRD section for D20 Modern, you'll see that significant portions of the books are indeed free, online. WotC not adding material to the SRD because they feel that publishers are using their material without adding to it in a significant manner, is totally different than a publisher holding on to their material in the fear that people won't buy books that have already sold past their prime. The material the publishers are withholding is material that is already OGL, and can be used by anyone. They're just not making it accessible to folks. Er, this is exactly what the discussion is ABOUT, whether it would hurt or not. Two seperate items, both labeled under "support" in my paragraph. Erratta and Updates are Support. My point is, a lot of the third party stuff I was getting was in need of Erratta, and I've yet to see any. Therfor, I don't buy from those companies without verifying that the material is significantly error-free. They'd be stupid to respond to fan's requests for support? I think there's a fundamental issue there. I'm saying companies should support their older products, and that doing so would benefit them overall as fans return because they know that support is there. And that greater support will benefit them in the long run. Plus, as I said, generating more revenue is true, but they also have higher expectations for revenue, they have Corporate Overlords to please. I'm talking about something like this: [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a[/url] Two seperate issues. It doesn't matter to me WHY something is no longer useful, if the company did further playtesting and found out some feat or PrC was broken, I'd appreciate a fix. It's not mandatory for every product, but it is a plus in the "support" column. The RPG business is different. The money invested in an RPG company would most likely make more money in many other business models. If they're doing it solely as an investment, then they're doing it wrong. RPG companies have to take their industry and their audience in mind when planning for the future and the long term stability of the market. Opinions vary. Er, I said it was pirated, that's what I was talking about. The "free fully formatted" was to contrast the pirated copy versus a nofrills company produced version. [/QUOTE]
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