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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2641193" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>You most definitely do not have even ONE shaky example of anything.</p><p></p><p>On the GOO SRDs we have NO information one way or the other- except that it has not led to further publisher adoption of the mecha and anime rules (which might possibly have helped GOO but probably not- most people have no idea where to even LOOK to find out where OGC sources are listed).</p><p></p><p>On the Ars Magica, we know their sales went almost to 0 because the company publically said as much. </p><p></p><p>But again- core rules are where companies make the MOST money. Supplements are designed to sell THEM.</p><p></p><p>Giving away the core book to sell the supplement doesnt make sense by any understanding of the RPG business model that I understand.</p><p></p><p>Most people in a group playing a game (its hoped) will eventually want the core rules, while a few buy the supplements.</p><p></p><p>The core book is often more expensive, with a larger print run and a slightly higher profit margin.</p><p></p><p>In short- if the core book still exists in print the RPG company is eager to sell it out by making supplements. If its in PDF, then the RPG company is still hoping to turn it into an evergreen product through supplements.</p><p></p><p>Here's one way you can win this argument- give me 5000 dollars to print a core book. I'll have RPGObjects print it- then I will donate my time to turn it into a free SRD and commit to doing supplements for it.</p><p></p><p>Any money over 5 grand the product makes will be yours.</p><p></p><p>Other than that, if you just want to sit on the sidelines of a business that's been my full time job for going on 4 years now and tell me "how it works"- well, color me skeptical <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Chuck</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 2641193, member: 4275"] You most definitely do not have even ONE shaky example of anything. On the GOO SRDs we have NO information one way or the other- except that it has not led to further publisher adoption of the mecha and anime rules (which might possibly have helped GOO but probably not- most people have no idea where to even LOOK to find out where OGC sources are listed). On the Ars Magica, we know their sales went almost to 0 because the company publically said as much. But again- core rules are where companies make the MOST money. Supplements are designed to sell THEM. Giving away the core book to sell the supplement doesnt make sense by any understanding of the RPG business model that I understand. Most people in a group playing a game (its hoped) will eventually want the core rules, while a few buy the supplements. The core book is often more expensive, with a larger print run and a slightly higher profit margin. In short- if the core book still exists in print the RPG company is eager to sell it out by making supplements. If its in PDF, then the RPG company is still hoping to turn it into an evergreen product through supplements. Here's one way you can win this argument- give me 5000 dollars to print a core book. I'll have RPGObjects print it- then I will donate my time to turn it into a free SRD and commit to doing supplements for it. Any money over 5 grand the product makes will be yours. Other than that, if you just want to sit on the sidelines of a business that's been my full time job for going on 4 years now and tell me "how it works"- well, color me skeptical :) Chuck [/QUOTE]
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