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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 2641494" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>Let's not mince words. You are asking for something for free, that the company that produces it would rather you pay for. You have all the right in the world to not run out and buy Arcana Evolved (just as an example), and are equally free to therefore not buy supplements that follow it. But Malhavoc should be under no pressure to give you all the "good parts" for free, so you can decide wether you'd deign to drop a few bucks on a smaller supplement with a very likley much smaller profit margin. That's just asinine. If you want to save yourself some money, try looking at previews on the web and in magazines, or go buy an inexpensive supplement *first*, and if you like what you see, go back and buy the core product. Or don't. But don't just stand there with your hand out feeling entitled.</p><p></p><p>On topic: I understand where CR is coming from, and I think i understand why he is coming from there -- as successful as D&D is in relation to other RPG publisher, they are likely suffering from the slow-down too, and the best way to combat that is to get more people playing the game and buying books. So, if companies that produce good work -- like Green Ronin and Mongoose and Malhavoc -- would put their effort into supporting D&D, like they were 'supposed to', then D&D would be better off. I get that, and it makes sense from WotC's perspective. I just don't see how it substantially helps tose 3rd parties, UNLESS WotC makes some concessions, the biggest of which would be the ability to actually slap the D&D logo on their product and sell it through the same channels as WotC sells D&D books. </p><p></p><p>Instead, it seems possible that WotC is abandoning the d20 market (not pulling the license or anything, but also not doing anything to help it out) and letting those other companies fend for themselves. They believe they make a superior product (as well they should, regardless of whether it is always true) and so they are going to do it themselves. And do you know what that means, them 'doing it themselves"? it means hiring the same freelancers that produce the quality work from all the 3rd parties everyone is so rabid over. because they can. because they have the resources to do so. So, when WotC decides to seriously support their game themselves -- rather than letting another company do it -- they are not only going to be pulling money out of those companies' pockets (there is only so much pie to go around, and despite what many people here at EN World seem to think, that D&D logo is an extremely powerful tool), they are very likely going to be stealing their talent as well.</p><p></p><p>this is of course my opnion, based on no facts at all, and probably wrong. But I don't think it is implausible, and I don't think a 'Powered By D&D' license would hurt anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 2641494, member: 467"] Let's not mince words. You are asking for something for free, that the company that produces it would rather you pay for. You have all the right in the world to not run out and buy Arcana Evolved (just as an example), and are equally free to therefore not buy supplements that follow it. But Malhavoc should be under no pressure to give you all the "good parts" for free, so you can decide wether you'd deign to drop a few bucks on a smaller supplement with a very likley much smaller profit margin. That's just asinine. If you want to save yourself some money, try looking at previews on the web and in magazines, or go buy an inexpensive supplement *first*, and if you like what you see, go back and buy the core product. Or don't. But don't just stand there with your hand out feeling entitled. On topic: I understand where CR is coming from, and I think i understand why he is coming from there -- as successful as D&D is in relation to other RPG publisher, they are likely suffering from the slow-down too, and the best way to combat that is to get more people playing the game and buying books. So, if companies that produce good work -- like Green Ronin and Mongoose and Malhavoc -- would put their effort into supporting D&D, like they were 'supposed to', then D&D would be better off. I get that, and it makes sense from WotC's perspective. I just don't see how it substantially helps tose 3rd parties, UNLESS WotC makes some concessions, the biggest of which would be the ability to actually slap the D&D logo on their product and sell it through the same channels as WotC sells D&D books. Instead, it seems possible that WotC is abandoning the d20 market (not pulling the license or anything, but also not doing anything to help it out) and letting those other companies fend for themselves. They believe they make a superior product (as well they should, regardless of whether it is always true) and so they are going to do it themselves. And do you know what that means, them 'doing it themselves"? it means hiring the same freelancers that produce the quality work from all the 3rd parties everyone is so rabid over. because they can. because they have the resources to do so. So, when WotC decides to seriously support their game themselves -- rather than letting another company do it -- they are not only going to be pulling money out of those companies' pockets (there is only so much pie to go around, and despite what many people here at EN World seem to think, that D&D logo is an extremely powerful tool), they are very likely going to be stealing their talent as well. this is of course my opnion, based on no facts at all, and probably wrong. But I don't think it is implausible, and I don't think a 'Powered By D&D' license would hurt anyone. [/QUOTE]
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