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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5440747" data-attributes="member: 4937">He thinks this because he was induced to believe it.&nbsp; He's being perfectly rational.&nbsp; After the charm spell wears off, he will remember that he believed them guilty of a crime and now he will remember that the party mind raped him with black magic in an attempt to cover up their evil deeds. The penalty for charming a person in my campaign world if you are caught is to be burned alive, so no, I don't consider the above description be an exagerration.&nbsp; A society can't afford treat 'charm person' as a wacky whim, as a basicly harmless and non-violent act, most especially a society that is essentially autocratic in nature (to say as little as possible about the obvious use of charm person to facillitate actual rape). How would you feel if someone took your powers of reasoning and will from you?The charm person spell is quite powerful and solves many problems all by itself, but there are times when having a lot ranks in Diplomacy and/or Bluff is far better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5440747, member: 4937"] He thinks this because he [I]was[/I] induced to believe it. He's being perfectly rational. After the charm spell wears off, he will remember that he believed them guilty of a crime and now he will remember that the party mind raped him with black magic in an attempt to cover up their evil deeds. The penalty for charming a person in my campaign world if you are caught is to be burned alive, so no, I don't consider the above description be an exagerration. A society can't afford treat 'charm person' as a wacky whim, as a basicly harmless and non-violent act, most especially a society that is essentially autocratic in nature (to say as little as possible about the obvious use of charm person to facillitate actual rape). How would you feel if someone took your powers of reasoning and will from you? The charm person spell is quite powerful and solves many problems all by itself, but there are times when having a lot ranks in Diplomacy and/or Bluff is far better. [/QUOTE]

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