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<blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5440892" data-attributes="member: 98032"><p>Charm Monster might have been overkill for the kobold : )</p><p> </p><p>What is the Kobold's intelligence? Did the party really just say "Ok, sit still while we cast this spell on you" or "oh ignore that guy wagglling his fingers and mumbling over there...." or did they use some sort of discretion? If they just pointed the mage at him while he watched, I'd say a reasonably intelligent humanoid would remember that when the spell wore off and be able to put two and two together.</p><p> </p><p>I know it varies per campaign, but spellcasting IMC can be fairly subtle. If they did it right and the target has no means of noticing a spell was cast, things might be a little different, but have the same end result. </p><p> </p><p>All he might really know is that he really trusted that wizard for a bit. He seemed like a reasonable guy and wasn't waving a sharp pointy object in his face like that walking tin-can. That wizard sounded pretty convincing about his lack of involvement and it's too bad he's fallen in with such terrible companions. (Though the succesful opposed Charisma might have him begrudgingly accept the Wizard's opinion re. the rest of the party.)</p><p> </p><p>But you know...it's been a day or so...and now that Mr. Scaly thinks of it, that Wizard just can't be right. The party HAS to be guilty of that crime, there is no other explanation. Instead of agreeing with the Wizard and sparing him the revenge (cause you know, even if the Wizard seemed nice, he still was thinking of getting even with his friends) he is going to have to include that Wizard again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CuRoi, post: 5440892, member: 98032"] Charm Monster might have been overkill for the kobold : ) What is the Kobold's intelligence? Did the party really just say "Ok, sit still while we cast this spell on you" or "oh ignore that guy wagglling his fingers and mumbling over there...." or did they use some sort of discretion? If they just pointed the mage at him while he watched, I'd say a reasonably intelligent humanoid would remember that when the spell wore off and be able to put two and two together. I know it varies per campaign, but spellcasting IMC can be fairly subtle. If they did it right and the target has no means of noticing a spell was cast, things might be a little different, but have the same end result. All he might really know is that he really trusted that wizard for a bit. He seemed like a reasonable guy and wasn't waving a sharp pointy object in his face like that walking tin-can. That wizard sounded pretty convincing about his lack of involvement and it's too bad he's fallen in with such terrible companions. (Though the succesful opposed Charisma might have him begrudgingly accept the Wizard's opinion re. the rest of the party.) But you know...it's been a day or so...and now that Mr. Scaly thinks of it, that Wizard just can't be right. The party HAS to be guilty of that crime, there is no other explanation. Instead of agreeing with the Wizard and sparing him the revenge (cause you know, even if the Wizard seemed nice, he still was thinking of getting even with his friends) he is going to have to include that Wizard again. [/QUOTE]
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