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Charm Person ends if caster does something harmful to target. Is hurting the target's ally harmful?
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8674443" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>It doesn't seem to me that <em>suggestion</em> would come across as doing harm to the PC warrior. If anything, I think the PC caster would feel <em>relieved</em> that there was "no need to fight"! "Wow, <Warrior PC> can be super stubborn about things, I'm so glad you were able to smooth this over without it actually coming to blows. That would have been really bad!"</p><p></p><p>I would, however, allow the caster PC a chance to sell me on them getting an additional attempt to break the charm, or perhaps a bonus to future saves. Not because of "indirect harm" (which, again, I don't actually see here in the first place) but because of the gross <em>illogic</em> of the situation. Someone you and your friend were just about to fight, now you're friendly acquaintances and your warrior friend has <em>left you alone with them?</em> That's weird!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8674443, member: 6790260"] It doesn't seem to me that [I]suggestion[/I] would come across as doing harm to the PC warrior. If anything, I think the PC caster would feel [I]relieved[/I] that there was "no need to fight"! "Wow, <Warrior PC> can be super stubborn about things, I'm so glad you were able to smooth this over without it actually coming to blows. That would have been really bad!" I would, however, allow the caster PC a chance to sell me on them getting an additional attempt to break the charm, or perhaps a bonus to future saves. Not because of "indirect harm" (which, again, I don't actually see here in the first place) but because of the gross [I]illogic[/I] of the situation. Someone you and your friend were just about to fight, now you're friendly acquaintances and your warrior friend has [I]left you alone with them?[/I] That's weird! [/QUOTE]
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