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<blockquote data-quote="BENINHB" data-source="post: 5435753" data-attributes="member: 86022">I agree with the rest of your post except for this part. What if the reason they have few or no other friends is because they are weak minded and cannot resist the urge to stab those around them and take their shiny things??What if the reason they have few or no other friends is because they have no sense of loyalty to anyone but themselves. Even if they see the PC as the best friend they have in the world that might not mean much to them. Imagine casting Charm Person on a typical Drow, they might be helpful... unless there was any benefit at all for them to stab you in the back.These reactions should not be the case all the time but consider the characters alignment, personality and history when determining how to have Charm Person work. It is not mind control.Funny story, our Bard cast charm person on a enemy Barbarian in our game. The Barbs eyes glossed over for a moment, he blinked a few times, then he regained his awareness. He looked at the Bard, smiled, dropped his Axe... then charged. He tackled the bard, wrestled him to the ground and beat him unconscious, laughing and taunting him the whole time (this took 2 rounds). &quot;WTF!!&quot; the bards player cried. The DM with an evil grin said &quot;What?? He is a wild young warrior of a barbarian tribe, how do you think he would greet a best friend he hadn't seen in a long time??&quot; We all started laughing. It's true, that is the total stereo typical Jock/Frat guy/Older Brother greeting i would expect from a barbarian, except the bard was a lot more fragile than another barbarian from the tribe would be and ended up getting hurt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BENINHB, post: 5435753, member: 86022"] I agree with the rest of your post except for this part. What if the reason they have few or no other friends is because they are weak minded and cannot resist the urge to stab those around them and take their shiny things?? What if the reason they have few or no other friends is because they have no sense of loyalty to anyone but themselves. Even if they see the PC as the best friend they have in the world that might not mean much to them. Imagine casting Charm Person on a typical Drow, they might be helpful... unless there was [B]any[/B] benefit at all for them to stab you in the back. These reactions should not be the case all the time but consider the characters alignment, personality and history when determining how to have Charm Person work. It is not mind control. Funny story, our Bard cast charm person on a enemy Barbarian in our game. The Barbs eyes glossed over for a moment, he blinked a few times, then he regained his awareness. He looked at the Bard, smiled, dropped his Axe... then charged. He tackled the bard, wrestled him to the ground and beat him unconscious, laughing and taunting him the whole time (this took 2 rounds). "WTF!!" the bards player cried. The DM with an evil grin said "[I]What[/I]?? He is a wild young warrior of a barbarian tribe, how do you think he would greet a best friend he hadn't seen in a long time??" We all started laughing. It's true, that is the total stereo typical Jock/Frat guy/Older Brother greeting i would expect from a barbarian, except the bard was a lot more fragile than another barbarian from the tribe would be and ended up getting hurt. [/QUOTE]

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