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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8467041" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>Mercing nazis in Europe in 1940 isn't really a case of "when it suits them". You've created a dichotomy wherein all guerilla actions are murder. Any ambush of the enemy, regardless of what the enemy is trying to do to your country and people, is murder? I think that's a pretty absurd notion.</p><p></p><p>Is it? That seems like a wild assumption, to me. An assassin is someone with that tool in their tool box, who is willing to use it and/or has used it. That certainly doesn't necessitate any sort of eagerness to kill or reluctance to use other tactics first.</p><p></p><p>Let's not get into <em>current</em> politically charged events, shall we?</p><p></p><p>Why would the court be relevant, here? Lots of things are good or neutral but can get you in trouble with the law. As for society, while it certainly gets more of a voice in an ethics debate about what is right or wrong than the legal system does, society causes incredible harm to innocent people all over the world. I don't find either question compelling. </p><p></p><p>Oh, and by the by, you wouldn't exactly have no legal defense you could make if you killed a serial killer that you could then prove was murdering people around you and that you could reasonably believe was going targeting you or your family next. You'd probably not get off clean, but you wouldn't be facing the same charges as you would if you murdered your neighbor for stealing your lawnmower.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If hypnotism could do in real life what it can do in fiction, any hypnotist would<em> at least</em> be a justified subject of suspicion.</p><p></p><p>I mean, if we disagree here, well...see below.</p><p></p><p>I just cannot reconcile this notion with any meaningful definition of words like "good", "evil", etc.</p><p></p><p>Our points of reference are too far apart to further engage on the subject usefully, I think. Especially since I doubt it was the OP's intent, nor Morrus's desire, to have drawn out discussions of sexual violence, torture, etc, in this thread. </p><p></p><p>Learning how to torture people is evil, and if you don't see the difference between that and learning to fight, that's fine. We disagree, and always will.</p><p></p><p>You've made the point in this very post. Controlling a person's mind is comparable to <em>killing them</em>. Not to stabbing them. Not to things people survive, but to the ultimate acts of violence. The only comperable acts to taking control of another person's mind are things that require trigger warnings in polite company to even talk about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8467041, member: 6704184"] Mercing nazis in Europe in 1940 isn't really a case of "when it suits them". You've created a dichotomy wherein all guerilla actions are murder. Any ambush of the enemy, regardless of what the enemy is trying to do to your country and people, is murder? I think that's a pretty absurd notion. Is it? That seems like a wild assumption, to me. An assassin is someone with that tool in their tool box, who is willing to use it and/or has used it. That certainly doesn't necessitate any sort of eagerness to kill or reluctance to use other tactics first. Let's not get into [I]current[/I] politically charged events, shall we? Why would the court be relevant, here? Lots of things are good or neutral but can get you in trouble with the law. As for society, while it certainly gets more of a voice in an ethics debate about what is right or wrong than the legal system does, society causes incredible harm to innocent people all over the world. I don't find either question compelling. Oh, and by the by, you wouldn't exactly have no legal defense you could make if you killed a serial killer that you could then prove was murdering people around you and that you could reasonably believe was going targeting you or your family next. You'd probably not get off clean, but you wouldn't be facing the same charges as you would if you murdered your neighbor for stealing your lawnmower. If hypnotism could do in real life what it can do in fiction, any hypnotist would[I] at least[/I] be a justified subject of suspicion. I mean, if we disagree here, well...see below. I just cannot reconcile this notion with any meaningful definition of words like "good", "evil", etc. Our points of reference are too far apart to further engage on the subject usefully, I think. Especially since I doubt it was the OP's intent, nor Morrus's desire, to have drawn out discussions of sexual violence, torture, etc, in this thread. Learning how to torture people is evil, and if you don't see the difference between that and learning to fight, that's fine. We disagree, and always will. You've made the point in this very post. Controlling a person's mind is comparable to [I]killing them[/I]. Not to stabbing them. Not to things people survive, but to the ultimate acts of violence. The only comperable acts to taking control of another person's mind are things that require trigger warnings in polite company to even talk about. [/QUOTE]
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