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<blockquote data-quote="abirdcall" data-source="post: 8469158" data-attributes="member: 6748898"><p>Yeah. It's not magic as in anti-magic zone but it's probably magic as in dragon breath weapon. It is an extraordinary thing that happens in fantasy worlds. In other words it isn't magic in the game world but it is fantastical.</p><p></p><p>I think the game uses the 'Charm' condition in the same way that 3e used persuasion checks.</p><p></p><p>It is a hard rule about how a character will act in response to an extraordinarily charming character.</p><p></p><p>Even then, having Advantage on a Charisma check doesn't mean that the creature is going to do what you want it to. The DM can just determine that the outcome of the PC's action is not in doubt so there is no roll and only failure. Also, on the player's side they are free to roleplay being Charmed however they like with the exception of out right attacking the Charmer.</p><p></p><p>So in light of all that I think we need to look at how a creature is Charmed and if there are additional effects of that Charm before we can say whether it is evil.</p><p></p><p>At the very least I don't think imposing the Charm effect is an evil act.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abirdcall, post: 8469158, member: 6748898"] Yeah. It's not magic as in anti-magic zone but it's probably magic as in dragon breath weapon. It is an extraordinary thing that happens in fantasy worlds. In other words it isn't magic in the game world but it is fantastical. I think the game uses the 'Charm' condition in the same way that 3e used persuasion checks. It is a hard rule about how a character will act in response to an extraordinarily charming character. Even then, having Advantage on a Charisma check doesn't mean that the creature is going to do what you want it to. The DM can just determine that the outcome of the PC's action is not in doubt so there is no roll and only failure. Also, on the player's side they are free to roleplay being Charmed however they like with the exception of out right attacking the Charmer. So in light of all that I think we need to look at how a creature is Charmed and if there are additional effects of that Charm before we can say whether it is evil. At the very least I don't think imposing the Charm effect is an evil act. [/QUOTE]
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