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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8470539" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>That is the part that does not seem defined in the books. If the table agreement ruling is that social checks work on PCs similar to how spells do then it can be an outcome that is in doubt until a check is made. If the table agreement ruling is that PCs decide whether they can be influenced or not then it is something a PC can unilaterally veto regardless of a roll.</p><p></p><p>I cannot find an explicit statement in the rules on how social skills interact with PCs, just how they can interact with NPCs or others and it all seems suggestive rather than defined.</p><p></p><p>5e PH 185 for social interactions which is mostly about how to do so and talks about the DM might call for checks to determine NPC reactions. Page 178 for Charisma and social interaction skills which talk about influencing "others".</p><p></p><p>5e DMG page 237 is for ability checks and page 244 for social interactions and I do not see any discussion of whether it works differently for a PC trying to trick another another PC for example.</p><p></p><p>In 3e for example there were things in the social skills that explicitly could affect PCs and effects that explicitly could not.</p><p></p><p>I don't see that in 5e, it seems to be a rulings not rules situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8470539, member: 2209"] That is the part that does not seem defined in the books. If the table agreement ruling is that social checks work on PCs similar to how spells do then it can be an outcome that is in doubt until a check is made. If the table agreement ruling is that PCs decide whether they can be influenced or not then it is something a PC can unilaterally veto regardless of a roll. I cannot find an explicit statement in the rules on how social skills interact with PCs, just how they can interact with NPCs or others and it all seems suggestive rather than defined. 5e PH 185 for social interactions which is mostly about how to do so and talks about the DM might call for checks to determine NPC reactions. Page 178 for Charisma and social interaction skills which talk about influencing "others". 5e DMG page 237 is for ability checks and page 244 for social interactions and I do not see any discussion of whether it works differently for a PC trying to trick another another PC for example. In 3e for example there were things in the social skills that explicitly could affect PCs and effects that explicitly could not. I don't see that in 5e, it seems to be a rulings not rules situation. [/QUOTE]
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