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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8471047" data-attributes="member: 84112">justify is the perfect word... you can ask if an evil act is justfied without makeing it a good act.same answer, violence's is bad, bad can be justifiedsee above but worse, becuse at this point you are not just useing force but deadly forcesee above... and again an escalation. do you REALLY have no choice but to shoot them? or did you WANT to shoot them and use the child as an excuse? or could you have punched them as above? never... You can justfie doing a bad act for a good cause, but that doesn't change the act from good to bad.I can steal a new PS7 because I like video games, is that wrong?I can steal a new car cause I want to is that wrong? (to quote rocket "What if I really really want it?"I can steal food to eat so I don't starve... I can steal a loaf of bread so my sisters children don't starve... ends and means still remain seperate and looking to justify it is just that... are there ones that MOST people will say is an okay use of a bad act, yes, does it make it less bad NO</blockquote>