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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8471195" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Not unless you think your opinion is the same as facts.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So it's OK because you claim I did it first? Sheesh.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Er, no. That's ridiculous. In the cannibalism issue, some real-world people have engaged in it for a cultural or religious ritual that is designed to show honor to their dead, or to keep the spirits of the dead among their people. I'm not talking about individuals from a culture that doesn't do but chooses to engage in it anyway, and who eat people who aren't consensual or who can't consent.</p><p></p><p>But name me <em>one </em>instance of mind control being used for legitimate good.</p><p></p><p>Or let's put it this way: what it I decided to mind-control you? Make you think things you wouldn't normally think, make you do things that you would normally refuse to do, that would be contrary to your nature and desires.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure you're going to say "but if it was for the greater good, it'd be OK," but I'm equally sure that if you were actually trying to do a thing that <em>I </em>felt you needed to be mind-controlled into not doing, you wouldn't agree--because no matter what your mental state is, you would feel you had a legitimate reason for doing the thing. </p><p></p><p>Like, you're an adventurer, trying to adventure. There's bandits or slavers or some other legit bad guys and, like any other True Adventurer, you get decide to get into combat. And I decide to <em>dominate </em>you, because killing is wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8471195, member: 6915329"] Not unless you think your opinion is the same as facts. So it's OK because you claim I did it first? Sheesh. Er, no. That's ridiculous. In the cannibalism issue, some real-world people have engaged in it for a cultural or religious ritual that is designed to show honor to their dead, or to keep the spirits of the dead among their people. I'm not talking about individuals from a culture that doesn't do but chooses to engage in it anyway, and who eat people who aren't consensual or who can't consent. But name me [I]one [/I]instance of mind control being used for legitimate good. Or let's put it this way: what it I decided to mind-control you? Make you think things you wouldn't normally think, make you do things that you would normally refuse to do, that would be contrary to your nature and desires. I'm sure you're going to say "but if it was for the greater good, it'd be OK," but I'm equally sure that if you were actually trying to do a thing that [I]I [/I]felt you needed to be mind-controlled into not doing, you wouldn't agree--because no matter what your mental state is, you would feel you had a legitimate reason for doing the thing. Like, you're an adventurer, trying to adventure. There's bandits or slavers or some other legit bad guys and, like any other True Adventurer, you get decide to get into combat. And I decide to [I]dominate [/I]you, because killing is wrong. [/QUOTE]
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