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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8471320" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Why is this person in a panic and thinking they're on the first floor? Because depending on the circumstances, this could be <em>removing </em>fear from a person, not taking over their mind.</p><p></p><p>If this is just a normal panic and/or delusion, this is using an evil action to a good end.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Data would have the option of disobeying the orders, just like every other Starfleet officer has. There would be consequences, yes, but again, just like every other Starfleet officer would face if they disobeyed an order (and I have a hard time believing that Picard would write Data up or throw him in the brig or something for disobeying this order).</p><p></p><p>Also, in this case, it boils down to him being a consenting adult who is choosing to disconnect his own chip. This isn't mind control, anymore than a person who is into meditation (or taking a mind-influencing drug) is mind controlling themself. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, something that is consensual and, in this case (as with the X-Men example above) more protective than actual mind control.</p><p></p><p>Although, at my table, the players (due to in-character things) usually ask one another (in-character) if it's OK to cast spells on each other.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, <em>consent </em>is the key. </p><p></p><p>In D&D, nobody is saying, "Hey, you guards, mind if I cast <em>charm person</em> on you so I don't have to kill you?" That would be ridiculous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8471320, member: 6915329"] Why is this person in a panic and thinking they're on the first floor? Because depending on the circumstances, this could be [I]removing [/I]fear from a person, not taking over their mind. If this is just a normal panic and/or delusion, this is using an evil action to a good end. Data would have the option of disobeying the orders, just like every other Starfleet officer has. There would be consequences, yes, but again, just like every other Starfleet officer would face if they disobeyed an order (and I have a hard time believing that Picard would write Data up or throw him in the brig or something for disobeying this order). Also, in this case, it boils down to him being a consenting adult who is choosing to disconnect his own chip. This isn't mind control, anymore than a person who is into meditation (or taking a mind-influencing drug) is mind controlling themself. Again, something that is consensual and, in this case (as with the X-Men example above) more protective than actual mind control. Although, at my table, the players (due to in-character things) usually ask one another (in-character) if it's OK to cast spells on each other. Again, [I]consent [/I]is the key. In D&D, nobody is saying, "Hey, you guards, mind if I cast [I]charm person[/I] on you so I don't have to kill you?" That would be ridiculous. [/QUOTE]
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