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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 305245" data-attributes="member: 141">A mixture of rules and house rules questions here.  Basically I want to know what the limits are of charm person and it's variants:1.  If a combat situation has erupted or is imminent (a face-off is just now turning into combat)- does the target of the spell get the +5 bonus to save as described in the spell for being threatened?2.  If the subject of the charm is alone, it will become the caster's bestest buddy, and conflict will cease.  But if the subject's comrades in arms are still fighting, what action will the charmed individual take?  Total defense?  Attack for subdual damage only?3.  If the wizard tries to order the subject to take particular actions in combat which requires the subject to fight his comrades, is a charisma check required?  Some commands might be to attack the enemy's spellcasters rather than defend the wizard, and to use lethal force rather than subdual force.4.  If someone on the subject's side says- "Kill him!  He's charmed!" what will the subject's comrades do?  Suppose the subject of the spell counter-accuses, or is the first to accuse someone (falsely) of being charmed?Rather than covering all possible variations, consider the scenario where the party is trying to get into a keep to kill the evil baron.  They've met a patrol unit of the baron's troops, and failed their bluff and disguise rolls to persuade them that they have legitimate business and should be allowed to pass.  Weapons have been drawn, arrows nocked, but no-one on the party's side has yet attacked- they are holding their actions so the wizard can cast a spell.</blockquote>

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