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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5724197" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>I don't think they automatically know. However, if you abused them during this period, they would at least wonder why they didn't "act right". In a world where magic is known, they'd get suspicious, especially if they knew you were a spellcaster.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How iron-clad is this agreement? Is there a cool-off period? Sometimes people make rash decisions, and sometimes they overturn them, but other times they're too embarrassed to do so.</p><p></p><p>They might wonder why they felt so "friendly" toward you then but not now, but unless they know they've been charmed, there's at least some chance the agreement will stand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Charm improves their feelings more than one step <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I assume you meant diplomacizing them the old-fashioned way while they're charmed (and enjoying a bonus while doing so). If so, I believe their feelings would remain "good" (see point 1 about abuse; this is the opposite).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. Of course, if they don't know they've been charmed, you've gotten away with that part.</p><p></p><p>I think this technique would backfire. Assuming noone was suspicious from the get go (unlikely, the only way to pull this off would be to charm the person without witnesses, and they'd still remember you casting some sort of spell, so you'd need to lie about what spell you were casting; not to mention advisers with high Sense Motive who can spot enchanted people, etc), if they became suspicious later, expect to be spied on by a lot of subordinates, including the right-hand-man/woman they're foisting on you, the low-ranking soldier who gives you tea and you never pay attention to, etc.</p><p></p><p>Also you have to put up with jealousy (longer-serving officers want your job), the bureaucracy of getting into that position, etc. The king (or whoever did the hiring) might be forced to fire the charmer, and indeed might do that without being forced!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5724197, member: 1165"] I don't think they automatically know. However, if you abused them during this period, they would at least wonder why they didn't "act right". In a world where magic is known, they'd get suspicious, especially if they knew you were a spellcaster. How iron-clad is this agreement? Is there a cool-off period? Sometimes people make rash decisions, and sometimes they overturn them, but other times they're too embarrassed to do so. They might wonder why they felt so "friendly" toward you then but not now, but unless they know they've been charmed, there's at least some chance the agreement will stand. Charm improves their feelings more than one step :) I assume you meant diplomacizing them the old-fashioned way while they're charmed (and enjoying a bonus while doing so). If so, I believe their feelings would remain "good" (see point 1 about abuse; this is the opposite). Yes. Of course, if they don't know they've been charmed, you've gotten away with that part. I think this technique would backfire. Assuming noone was suspicious from the get go (unlikely, the only way to pull this off would be to charm the person without witnesses, and they'd still remember you casting some sort of spell, so you'd need to lie about what spell you were casting; not to mention advisers with high Sense Motive who can spot enchanted people, etc), if they became suspicious later, expect to be spied on by a lot of subordinates, including the right-hand-man/woman they're foisting on you, the low-ranking soldier who gives you tea and you never pay attention to, etc. Also you have to put up with jealousy (longer-serving officers want your job), the bureaucracy of getting into that position, etc. The king (or whoever did the hiring) might be forced to fire the charmer, and indeed might do that without being forced! [/QUOTE]
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