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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8447506" data-attributes="member: 4534">They'll know.&nbsp; If they make their saving roll they'll know the PC was trying to do something to them even if they don't have the arcane knowledge to exactly what they were attempting to accomplish.&nbsp; That's just how I handle it at my table and isn't something I can point to in the rules.&nbsp; And this is why my players don't use Charm Person any more.&nbsp; As written, it's a weak spell.&nbsp; In third edition, the target of a Charm Person spell would treat the caster as a trusted friend and ally.&nbsp; In 5th edition, the target of the spell treats the caster as a friendly acquaintance.&nbsp; There's no way I'm going to trust a &quot;friendly acquaintance&quot; over my party members whom I often depend on for my life.&nbsp; So I would interpret it as the PCs being able to talk their friend out of treating the caster as a friendly acquaintance fairly easily.&nbsp; As written, the target of the spell realizes they were charmed once it wears off.&nbsp; I think Charm Person should be rewritten to be a little more useful.&nbsp; And I don't mind subtle, but if you have V,S components then you've got to do something to keep the casting hidden in my opinion.&nbsp; And I'd give the PC some options including Deception, Sleight of Hand, Performance, or whatever else best fits the situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8447506, member: 4534"] They'll know. If they make their saving roll they'll know the PC was trying to do something to them even if they don't have the arcane knowledge to exactly [I]what[/I] they were attempting to accomplish. That's just how I handle it at my table and isn't something I can point to in the rules. And this is why my players don't use Charm Person any more. As written, it's a weak spell. In third edition, the target of a Charm Person spell would treat the caster as a trusted friend and ally. In 5th edition, the target of the spell treats the caster as a friendly acquaintance. There's no way I'm going to trust a "friendly acquaintance" over my party members whom I often depend on for my life. So I would interpret it as the PCs being able to talk their friend out of treating the caster as a friendly acquaintance fairly easily. As written, the target of the spell realizes they were charmed once it wears off. I think Charm Person should be rewritten to be a little more useful. And I don't mind subtle, but if you have V,S components then you've got to do something to keep the casting hidden in my opinion. And I'd give the PC some options including Deception, Sleight of Hand, Performance, or whatever else best fits the situation. [/QUOTE]

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