Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="abirdcall" data-source="post: 8447656" data-attributes="member: 6748898">I'm asking whether they know even if they fail their roll. They suffer the effects but that doesn't mean they are dominated. The rules don't actually say they don't know.As to the part of making their saving throw to know they were targeted, this is actually against the rules. The rules specifically state that they would not be aware of being targeted by a spell. If you're going to change how Charm Person works for the worse why not make it a bit better when it does work?Well it depends on how trusted the companions are. The key here is whether they can convince the target they have been charmed. I'm going to say that it's hard to do that, otherwise the spell (and other charms) are practically worthless.Right, but I'm asking if they know while they're charmed. Rules don't say they don't. And if we're making rulings based on what 'makes sense' why wouldn't they know they were charmed during the spell? I think we need to make some rulings in order to make the spell make sense.I think it's just a matter of ruling that the target of charms don't know they're charmed. I'm all for consequences if it doesn't work but if it is successful I don't want the charmed to realize it.And as you said in the second part ruling that the spell</blockquote>

[QUOTE="abirdcall, post: 8447656, member: 6748898"] I'm asking whether they know even if they fail their roll. They suffer the effects but that doesn't mean they are dominated. The rules don't actually say they don't know. As to the part of making their saving throw to know they were targeted, this is actually against the rules. The rules specifically state that they would not be aware of being targeted by a spell. If you're going to change how Charm Person works for the worse why not make it a bit better when it does work? Well it depends on how trusted the companions are. The key here is whether they can convince the target they have been charmed. I'm going to say that it's hard to do that, otherwise the spell (and other charms) are practically worthless. Right, but I'm asking if they know while they're charmed. Rules don't say they don't. And if we're making rulings based on what 'makes sense' why wouldn't they know they were charmed during the spell? I think we need to make some rulings in order to make the spell make sense. I think it's just a matter of ruling that the target of charms don't know they're charmed. I'm all for consequences if it doesn't work but if it is successful I don't want the charmed to realize it. And as you said in the second part ruling that the spell [/QUOTE]

Verification