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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Morris" data-source="post: 4129733" data-attributes="member: 87">The upgrade involves changing vbulletin from version 3.0.7 to version 3.7.&nbsp; Absolutely none of the old code will work due to key changes in the vbulletin API that were implemented in version 3.5. vbxirc is not an option, it's successor for vb 3.5 was never completed, so it too isn't an option.This comment, implying the community at #dnd3e would not be willing to move, that none of the moderators would move over, strongly implies that the #dnd3e has a love of D&amp;D in common with ENWorld and absolutely nothing else. I know user crossover is minimal - I've been in there enough times to know the folks that idle in the channel don't use the boards often. I've been told point blank by several users that they don't frequent the site at all when I've went in there to look for testers on dev in the last year.False. WotC moved to an incredibly buggy proprietary chat system instead of Flashchat which caused the alienation you speak of. This incident is why the ISRP boards were moved from the WotC server to here.Whatever solution is adopted, it must include full Integration with vbulletin. That means<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">No one can register a handle in the channel that does not have a corresponding messageboard account.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Anyone banned from the forum is likewise banned in chat, and vice versa</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">Chat must be usable from a web page. I don't care how many IRC client programs it allows, it must have a web portal.</li>
</ol>If IRC can deliver this I'm all ears. If it cannot then it is off the table as far as I'm concerned.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Michael Morris, post: 4129733, member: 87"] The upgrade involves changing vbulletin from version 3.0.7 to version 3.7. Absolutely none of the old code will work due to key changes in the vbulletin API that were implemented in version 3.5. vbxirc is not an option, it's successor for vb 3.5 was never completed, so it too isn't an option. This comment, implying the community at #dnd3e would not be willing to move, that none of the moderators would move over, strongly implies that the #dnd3e has a love of D&D in common with ENWorld and absolutely nothing else. I know user crossover is minimal - I've been in there enough times to know the folks that idle in the channel don't use the boards often. I've been told point blank by several users that they don't frequent the site at all when I've went in there to look for testers on dev in the last year. False. WotC moved to an incredibly buggy proprietary chat system instead of Flashchat which caused the alienation you speak of. This incident is why the ISRP boards were moved from the WotC server to here. Whatever solution is adopted, it must include full Integration with vbulletin. That means [list=1][*]No one can register a handle in the channel that does not have a corresponding messageboard account. [*]Anyone banned from the forum is likewise banned in chat, and vice versa [*]Chat must be usable from a web page. I don't care how many IRC client programs it allows, it must have a web portal. [/list] If IRC can deliver this I'm all ears. If it cannot then it is off the table as far as I'm concerned. [/QUOTE]

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