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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 9064370" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>"Generally" I'm sure she did. But that doesn't mean she wasn't a toxic boss. Someone who yells at their employees "a lot," and whose staff are afraid of them, isn't someone who could be called pleasant by any means.</p><p></p><p>I've heard people repeatedly mention the story where Gary Gygax blew up at Rob Kuntz, Dave Arneson, and a few other people (in response to a suggestion that the company move closer to the Twin Cities area), citing it as evidence of his being difficult to work for. With Lorraine, that was apparently a Tuesday.</p><p></p><p>Leaving aside that it's much more "the Blumes" than "Gary" (he had been a minority holder in the company's assets since 1975, and his having been sent to California was what allowed the Blumes to take their excesses to the point of almost sinking the company), she only managed it for twelve years, the exact same amount of time that it had been under the direction of Gary/the Blumes.</p><p></p><p>There's a reason that I quoted Jim Fallone, rather than Riggs himself, that reason being that Riggs is openly partisan about his presentation (i.e. his pettiness in repeatedly calling Gary "Saint Gary" throughout the book), calling a lot of what he personally asserts into question.</p><p></p><p>So you're saying a toxic boss isn't toxic so long as they have some redeeming qualities? That's an...interesting, take on things.</p><p></p><p>He admittedly tries very hard to push that point, and he does come up with a few stories that cast her in a good light: her calling back an employee who had been fired in 1996 and not only admitting that the firing had been in error, but also apologizing, was absolutely to her credit. So was her helping out William W. Conners while he was taking care of his wife. But the bulk of his book only serves to demonstrate that her poor reputation was very well earned: again, if your own employees are afraid of you, that really tells you all you need to know.</p><p></p><p>Riggs seems to agree with you, but in his case he seems to have started with that conclusion and gone looking for evidence to support it...and he didn't find very much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 9064370, member: 8461"] "Generally" I'm sure she did. But that doesn't mean she wasn't a toxic boss. Someone who yells at their employees "a lot," and whose staff are afraid of them, isn't someone who could be called pleasant by any means. I've heard people repeatedly mention the story where Gary Gygax blew up at Rob Kuntz, Dave Arneson, and a few other people (in response to a suggestion that the company move closer to the Twin Cities area), citing it as evidence of his being difficult to work for. With Lorraine, that was apparently a Tuesday. Leaving aside that it's much more "the Blumes" than "Gary" (he had been a minority holder in the company's assets since 1975, and his having been sent to California was what allowed the Blumes to take their excesses to the point of almost sinking the company), she only managed it for twelve years, the exact same amount of time that it had been under the direction of Gary/the Blumes. There's a reason that I quoted Jim Fallone, rather than Riggs himself, that reason being that Riggs is openly partisan about his presentation (i.e. his pettiness in repeatedly calling Gary "Saint Gary" throughout the book), calling a lot of what he personally asserts into question. So you're saying a toxic boss isn't toxic so long as they have some redeeming qualities? That's an...interesting, take on things. He admittedly tries very hard to push that point, and he does come up with a few stories that cast her in a good light: her calling back an employee who had been fired in 1996 and not only admitting that the firing had been in error, but also apologizing, was absolutely to her credit. So was her helping out William W. Conners while he was taking care of his wife. But the bulk of his book only serves to demonstrate that her poor reputation was very well earned: again, if your own employees are afraid of you, that really tells you all you need to know. Riggs seems to agree with you, but in his case he seems to have started with that conclusion and gone looking for evidence to support it...and he didn't find very much. [/QUOTE]
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