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<blockquote data-quote="Severson" data-source="post: 4025269" data-attributes="member: 59725"><p>I'd like to get some thoughts on cheating on die rolls in D&D.</p><p></p><p>I play in a 3E game and sit next to a player who will roll a 4 and report a 15 and I know based on his class and level that this is unlikely at best. He hesitates before reporting the roll as well even though his sheet is a clean, organized printout. It is something I have noticed in the last few sessions and it seems like he doing it with some regularity.</p><p></p><p>I think it is fair to say that in all of the games I've played in, there has been 1 player who routinely reports inflated numbers. Usually I feel that this person, in real life, needs something from the game that perhaps s/he is not getting in real life and that is why they cheat.</p><p></p><p>Also, are they harming anybody? Devil's Advocate: if it helps them have a better time at the game and if they are not using their inflated rolls to self-aggrandize or be a star at the table, then is it so bad?</p><p></p><p>In fairness, when looking at my own cheating, I have done it at times when I am within 1 or 2 points away from what I think I need to succeed AND when the consequences for failure are high (like character death and subsequent loss of level). So, please understand that I am not holier than thou here. Sometimes it has been too tempting not to do.</p><p></p><p>I have another friend who respectfully "averts her eyes" when knowing a comrade is making a key roll, to give them room around the issue. This makes me laugh but also I think there is some wisdom in this.</p><p></p><p>I would love to know whether you yourselves cheat or have cheated and why you think you have needed to do it. I would also love to hear from someone who can honestly say they have NEVER done it and why they have not done it! If you were a fellow player, what would you do? If you are a GM who rolls the numbers secretly, do you "cheat?" Or is the GM immune to the rules because s/he makes them?</p><p></p><p>This is a great community you have here and I am enjoying it.</p><p></p><p>Cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Severson, post: 4025269, member: 59725"] I'd like to get some thoughts on cheating on die rolls in D&D. I play in a 3E game and sit next to a player who will roll a 4 and report a 15 and I know based on his class and level that this is unlikely at best. He hesitates before reporting the roll as well even though his sheet is a clean, organized printout. It is something I have noticed in the last few sessions and it seems like he doing it with some regularity. I think it is fair to say that in all of the games I've played in, there has been 1 player who routinely reports inflated numbers. Usually I feel that this person, in real life, needs something from the game that perhaps s/he is not getting in real life and that is why they cheat. Also, are they harming anybody? Devil's Advocate: if it helps them have a better time at the game and if they are not using their inflated rolls to self-aggrandize or be a star at the table, then is it so bad? In fairness, when looking at my own cheating, I have done it at times when I am within 1 or 2 points away from what I think I need to succeed AND when the consequences for failure are high (like character death and subsequent loss of level). So, please understand that I am not holier than thou here. Sometimes it has been too tempting not to do. I have another friend who respectfully "averts her eyes" when knowing a comrade is making a key roll, to give them room around the issue. This makes me laugh but also I think there is some wisdom in this. I would love to know whether you yourselves cheat or have cheated and why you think you have needed to do it. I would also love to hear from someone who can honestly say they have NEVER done it and why they have not done it! If you were a fellow player, what would you do? If you are a GM who rolls the numbers secretly, do you "cheat?" Or is the GM immune to the rules because s/he makes them? This is a great community you have here and I am enjoying it. Cheers. [/QUOTE]
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