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<blockquote data-quote="fissionessence" data-source="post: 4453621" data-attributes="member: 63357"><p>If I were a player in a game where I knew one of the other players was regularly cheating, I would be pretty upset. I would be doubly upset if I knew the DM was aware of this cheating and didn't care or wasn't doing anything proactive about it.</p><p></p><p>When I have a <em>chance</em> to succeed, and another player basically always succeeds, my character's usefulness, cool factor and power level lowers dramatically. In one campaign where I am a player, I've had fairly bad combat rolls for three sessions in a row, missing almost consistently. I already feel somewhat useless compared to the other characters because of this, but I go with the flow. However, if I knew that another player was doing considerably better than I was because of cheating, that would be really upsetting; why should my character suck for following the rules when another player can just break them and be godly?</p><p></p><p>Seriously, from a player point of view, I'm almost offended by those who suggested the cheating player's actions are in any way tolerable.</p><p></p><p>What I wrote above pertains to perpetual cheaters. If a player has an unlucky streak, and secretly cheats on a couple rolls to get back into the fight and start having fun again, this wouldn't bother me from a DM or player perspective. [sarcasm](Maybe I should even consider this for myself if my bad luck streak keeps up!)[/sarcasm]</p><p></p><p>Perhaps one way to confront the player is to feign an acceptance of her cheating as a play style, but explain that it does not mesh with the play style of the rest of the group because of the way it negatively impacts the relative potency of other players' characters. </p><p></p><p>You might even suggest that no longer cheating could enhance her enjoyment of the game play experience because of the fun derived from the additional tension. Keep this comment in reserve, though; it certainly isn't something to base an argument on.</p><p></p><p>~ fissionessence</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fissionessence, post: 4453621, member: 63357"] If I were a player in a game where I knew one of the other players was regularly cheating, I would be pretty upset. I would be doubly upset if I knew the DM was aware of this cheating and didn't care or wasn't doing anything proactive about it. When I have a [i]chance[/i] to succeed, and another player basically always succeeds, my character's usefulness, cool factor and power level lowers dramatically. In one campaign where I am a player, I've had fairly bad combat rolls for three sessions in a row, missing almost consistently. I already feel somewhat useless compared to the other characters because of this, but I go with the flow. However, if I knew that another player was doing considerably better than I was because of cheating, that would be really upsetting; why should my character suck for following the rules when another player can just break them and be godly? Seriously, from a player point of view, I'm almost offended by those who suggested the cheating player's actions are in any way tolerable. What I wrote above pertains to perpetual cheaters. If a player has an unlucky streak, and secretly cheats on a couple rolls to get back into the fight and start having fun again, this wouldn't bother me from a DM or player perspective. [sarcasm](Maybe I should even consider this for myself if my bad luck streak keeps up!)[/sarcasm] Perhaps one way to confront the player is to feign an acceptance of her cheating as a play style, but explain that it does not mesh with the play style of the rest of the group because of the way it negatively impacts the relative potency of other players' characters. You might even suggest that no longer cheating could enhance her enjoyment of the game play experience because of the fun derived from the additional tension. Keep this comment in reserve, though; it certainly isn't something to base an argument on. ~ fissionessence [/QUOTE]
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