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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 4460143" data-attributes="member: 48665">In a more direct response to the OP, I have had players who for whatever reasons decided to do exactly what the OP is proposing.&nbsp; To my knowledge there was no cheating going on, but I just have nosy players who want to see and blab every detail they can get.&nbsp; In a cross thread moment here, there is another thread about revealing DC or AC numbers, which I tend not to do.&nbsp; However my players will work it out for themselves and gleefully announce it to the rest of the group...&quot;You need a 22 to hit, and your bonus is +8 right? so you just need a 14... oh man a 12, damn!&quot;This sort of cross chatter is very common for my group, so I don't see any problem with a contrived version of same for the OP if it works out for him.&nbsp; I also don't see it as belittling or demeaning the player in question either.&nbsp; In fact (putting on pop psychology hat) I see it as a positive reinforcement to do the right thing even if it results in bad consequences.&nbsp; If the player sees that rolling bad does not cause the world to end, and if they are forced to reveal the true rolls, then maybe they will get used to it by shear repetition and unconsciously decide to do it on their own when the chance arises in the future? (taking hat off)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cougent, post: 4460143, member: 48665"] In a more direct response to the OP, I have had players who for whatever reasons decided to do exactly what the OP is proposing. To my knowledge there was no cheating going on, but I just have nosy players who want to see and blab every detail they can get. In a cross thread moment here, there is another thread about revealing DC or AC numbers, which I tend not to do. However my players will work it out for themselves and gleefully announce it to the rest of the group... "You need a 22 to hit, and your bonus is +8 right? so you just need a 14... oh man a 12, damn!" This sort of cross chatter is very common for my group, so I don't see any problem with a contrived version of same for the OP if it works out for him. I also don't see it as belittling or demeaning the player in question either. In fact (putting on pop psychology hat) I see it as a positive reinforcement to do the right thing even if it results in bad consequences. If the player sees that rolling bad does not cause the world to end, and if they are forced to reveal the true rolls, then maybe they will get used to it by shear repetition and unconsciously decide to do it on their own when the chance arises in the future? (taking hat off) [/QUOTE]

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