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<blockquote data-quote="babomb" data-source="post: 1045324" data-attributes="member: 1316"><p>I'd hate to see what would happen if you WERE trying to screw the paladin.</p><p></p><p>First, the way you worded your post, the only thing the paladin agreed to do was ask. If so, that's all he has to do.</p><p></p><p>Second, you made it clear that he didn't know about the fact that another life must be taken to bring her back. The paladin didn't swear an oath, but simply agreed (from the way your post read). Finding new information is good enough for insubordination; I think it's good enough for breaking an informal agreement.</p><p></p><p>Third, you seem to imply that this was the player's choice, as he didn't have to agree. Making a simple uninformed choice is no reason to punish a player. Besides, it seems to me you'd probably have taken his powers for not agreeing, seeing as he'd be refusing to help the needy for no good reason. You say the Paladin can wash his hands at any time, but then he's stuck with a curse and at least temporarily loses his Paladinhood.</p><p></p><p>Fourth, it's not a moral dilemma if there's nothing you can do about it. You're not so much hooking him and reeling him in as pumping all of the water out of the pond and blaming him for not growing lungs.</p><p></p><p>As for my suggestion, either have Lord Death choose the dwarf or the assassins. Either is much more interesting for the player than a one-way ticket to Fighter-Without-Feats-ville, population you.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and if the Paladin offers his own life in exchange WITHOUT prompting from you or any of your NPCs, I'd give him the girl's soul for free (though maybe <i>reincarnated</i> instead of <i>raised</i>).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="babomb, post: 1045324, member: 1316"] I'd hate to see what would happen if you WERE trying to screw the paladin. First, the way you worded your post, the only thing the paladin agreed to do was ask. If so, that's all he has to do. Second, you made it clear that he didn't know about the fact that another life must be taken to bring her back. The paladin didn't swear an oath, but simply agreed (from the way your post read). Finding new information is good enough for insubordination; I think it's good enough for breaking an informal agreement. Third, you seem to imply that this was the player's choice, as he didn't have to agree. Making a simple uninformed choice is no reason to punish a player. Besides, it seems to me you'd probably have taken his powers for not agreeing, seeing as he'd be refusing to help the needy for no good reason. You say the Paladin can wash his hands at any time, but then he's stuck with a curse and at least temporarily loses his Paladinhood. Fourth, it's not a moral dilemma if there's nothing you can do about it. You're not so much hooking him and reeling him in as pumping all of the water out of the pond and blaming him for not growing lungs. As for my suggestion, either have Lord Death choose the dwarf or the assassins. Either is much more interesting for the player than a one-way ticket to Fighter-Without-Feats-ville, population you. Oh, and if the Paladin offers his own life in exchange WITHOUT prompting from you or any of your NPCs, I'd give him the girl's soul for free (though maybe <i>reincarnated</i> instead of <i>raised</i>). [/QUOTE]
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