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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Munin" data-source="post: 1051414" data-attributes="member: 5722">There are a few points here I'd like to clear up. Perhaps I wasn't exactly clear on the details of the situation and this lead to some confusion. Perhaps some of you are just wussies.The paladin is in no way being 'railroaded'. He can at any time *before* he agrees to LD's deal walk away clean, without a mark on his honor. No harm no foul.He did NOT swear to bring Molly back. He promised to do the best he could. Of course, the tavern owner may not see it that way, but that is his own fault, and not the fault of the paladin.If he does accept the deal with LD, he will then be oathbound until he satisfies his part of the bargain. He will not know in advance what soul he must exchange, but he will be made aware of the fact that it could be anyone. In fact, the cleric performing the ritual will recommend that he not go through with this, and has himself declined to strike a deal with death. IMC, this is equivilant to the DM saying 'are you sure you want to do that?'If the worst case scenario happens, and he becomes obligated to murder, there will be consequences. First off, he will loose some or all of his paladin abilities. If he does like some of you suggest, and pitch a tantrum and kill his character, so be it. If he playes his character like the (relatively) mature individual that he is, he will be given a quest to redeem himself, and the loot that will result from that adventure. He would also gain the respect an admiration of the dwarf and a healthy gift from him (he is a retired adventurer himself). He may also gain an squire, since Molly wants to be an adventurer someday.Nifft, I really like the old guy idea...consider it stolen <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I can't help but get the feeling that some of you prefer to play in a consequence free, alls well that ends well environment. If that's your cup of tea, cool. But I find it boring.I don't screw my players. I am harsh, but they are playing in a harsh world. Who says there is always a good way out? Who says the party will always win?If a player screws up, he's going to pay. If he pledges an oath and breaks it, especially to a being as powerful as LD, there will be hell to pay. Rewards are hard fought, but the players earn them.</blockquote>

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