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<blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 2816665" data-attributes="member: 17550"><p>I'm sorry, but that's not what I said. Here's a good, solid defintion of 'cheating':</p><p></p><p>cheat </p><p>v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats</p><p>v. tr.</p><p> 1. To deceive by trickery</p><p> 2. To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye.</p><p></p><p>v. intr.</p><p> 1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud.</p><p> 2. <strong>To violate rules deliberately, as in a game</strong>: was accused of cheating at cards.</p><p> </p><p>n.</p><p> 1. An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle.</p><p></p><p>It's as clear a definition as we could ask for.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>See the above. Cheating <em>is</em> cheating, in this context - a deliberate violation of not only the game rules, but those of the social contract, compounded by lying about the act itself. And I already nicely proved that the other players are penalized by someone cheating - they must deal with the results of their honest efforts, while the cheater simply refuses to deal with the consequences. That's not exactly a level, equitable playing field.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What's the quote? I'll paraphrase - "All a cheat needs to damage a game is for those who notice to do nothing." Proven above - a game that isn't a level field for all players within the social contract and the agreed upon rules isn't an equitable game. If you know there's cheating and say nothing, you're lying by omission, thus violating the commonly-held social contract among peers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you aren't aware of it, then you're simply suffering the fallout without knowing why or possibly even that it's happening. In that case, it is lowering the quality of the game as a whole; you aren't a specific target, most times. You lose the equitable game, the level playing field, regardless. The cheat makes the game unbalanced when they ignore, fudge or otherwise perpetuate falsehood, which lowers the overall quality of the game for those who don't exploit an unfair advantage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The violation of trust is bad enough - and you're assuming a false premise, which is that the friendship will be ruined if you call someone on their shennanigans. As for the rest of the argument, see above.</p><p></p><p><em>Edit:</em> Removed some content. You're absolutely right, PC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jim Hague, post: 2816665, member: 17550"] I'm sorry, but that's not what I said. Here's a good, solid defintion of 'cheating': cheat v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats v. tr. 1. To deceive by trickery 2. To mislead; fool: illusions that cheat the eye. v. intr. 1. To act dishonestly; practice fraud. 2. [b]To violate rules deliberately, as in a game[/b]: was accused of cheating at cards. n. 1. An act of cheating; a fraud or swindle. It's as clear a definition as we could ask for. See the above. Cheating [i]is[/i] cheating, in this context - a deliberate violation of not only the game rules, but those of the social contract, compounded by lying about the act itself. And I already nicely proved that the other players are penalized by someone cheating - they must deal with the results of their honest efforts, while the cheater simply refuses to deal with the consequences. That's not exactly a level, equitable playing field. What's the quote? I'll paraphrase - "All a cheat needs to damage a game is for those who notice to do nothing." Proven above - a game that isn't a level field for all players within the social contract and the agreed upon rules isn't an equitable game. If you know there's cheating and say nothing, you're lying by omission, thus violating the commonly-held social contract among peers. If you aren't aware of it, then you're simply suffering the fallout without knowing why or possibly even that it's happening. In that case, it is lowering the quality of the game as a whole; you aren't a specific target, most times. You lose the equitable game, the level playing field, regardless. The cheat makes the game unbalanced when they ignore, fudge or otherwise perpetuate falsehood, which lowers the overall quality of the game for those who don't exploit an unfair advantage. The violation of trust is bad enough - and you're assuming a false premise, which is that the friendship will be ruined if you call someone on their shennanigans. As for the rest of the argument, see above. [i]Edit:[/i] Removed some content. You're absolutely right, PC. [/QUOTE]
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