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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasper" data-source="post: 2818409" data-attributes="member: 277">ok rushing the steps I have taken to stop cheating as dm and player. Some at the time I thought was nice and trying to correct the problem by in and out game tricks.1. Narc on the guy. No bob you called red high on your d20(old ones went 0-9) at the being of the session remember. You roll is 8 plus bonuses.2. Mention to Bob that die is old and rounded and no longer fair.3. Players roll in open and other players confirm.4. Bigger dice. Sorry Bob those mini dice can fit on your mini hand.5. Double check sheets to see if math problem etc. 6. Mention they been very lucky.7. Confront the player and tell him no cheating.8. Ignored Bob's rolls and damage. Gee that monster has lot of hitpts. Not nice.9. The monster can fudge too. Again not Nice.10. All monsters target bob and do max damage. Again very much not nice.11. In public at the table tell Bob to quit cheating.12. If 11 does not work after while I don't allow him at my table.13. If bob continues to cheat in games other my I leave the table.All the cheaters I have met and be caught will first lie. Some quit cheating and the game goes on. Sometimes 12 and 13 happens and games goes on. A lot of people mentioned but he my friend. So just because I game with someone does not mean I have to accept his faults. I have friends I game with but don't go to the movies with. I have friends who I go to the movies with that I don't game with.And I pass the age where I will tolerate  game mates who cheat. I can make more friends and find more mates willing to play the game.</blockquote>

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