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<blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 2819870" data-attributes="member: 17550">No such thing.&nbsp; One person cheats, it penalizes the other players at the table who aren't cheating and can seriously screw up the game - again, since it's germaine, witness what it's doing to Don's group.&nbsp; You want a game where fudging isn't a problem, (again) use a system where fudging is built in or one that gives explcit authorial control to the players along with the GM.Trying to qualify 'noticeably harmful' is, IMO, splitting hairs and is a fairly weak argument, like saying it's only a 'little' wrong to steal or 'kind of bad' if you beat someone up or 'questionable' to lie.&nbsp; It's not kicking puppies or burning someone's house to the ground, but it's wrong - and if you don't buy that, then swim upthread and see the common definition of cheating.&nbsp; The rules are there for a reason (balance and an equitable game on the players' side), and in most games the only person at the table explicitly allowed to break or change those rules if the GM.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jim Hague, post: 2819870, member: 17550"] No such thing. One person cheats, it penalizes the other players at the table who aren't cheating and can seriously screw up the game - again, since it's germaine, witness what it's doing to Don's group. You want a game where fudging isn't a problem, (again) use a system where fudging is built in or one that gives explcit authorial control to the players along with the GM. Trying to qualify 'noticeably harmful' is, IMO, splitting hairs and is a fairly weak argument, like saying it's only a 'little' wrong to steal or 'kind of bad' if you beat someone up or 'questionable' to lie. It's not kicking puppies or burning someone's house to the ground, but it's wrong - and if you don't buy [i]that[/i], then swim upthread and see the common definition of cheating. The rules are there for a reason (balance and an equitable game on the players' side), and in most games the only person at the table explicitly allowed to break or change those rules if the GM. [/QUOTE]

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