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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2821479" data-attributes="member: 12037">But, what you're doing is ignoring the dice when you deem thematically innapropriate without consulting the people who those dice rolls are actually affecting. I'm confused about your respect earned thing. This is theoretically (in the context of this thread) a friend of yours. I would assume that one would respect the feelings of one's friends. Why is okay to cheat on their behalf if you know they wouldn't want it (since you aren't going to tell them)? Why is it okay to take power normally associated with the DM onto yourself without first having any approval of the group?In this case, he doesn't deserve to "be the man." Why? Because the dice say he doesn't. It's why we use dice. Sometimes we succeed, sometimes we fail. Eventually it evens out. By taking matters into your own hands, suddenly the curve is skewed. This is still a game, after all.I'm not sure what this has to do with cheating. If you know the other PCs are weak, then you powergame your PC and dominate play, that's not cheating. It's still bad, so what we can derive from this is that there are more ways to disrupt play than cheating. What we cannot say from this is that cheating is a good way to solve this discrepancy.Make a weaker PC, make a PC who is more docile, go for a buff/support role instead, do things with your character within the game that allow for this without falling back on cheating to make the other players sucessful. Are they really succeeding if their wins are a result of cheating? How is this a good thing?Do you expect the semantics to make them feel better if they found out? Would you want to play a PC knowing that they only reason you're alive is because of lying and deciet toward the DM? That would not only make me feel guilty but it would nullify everything that's happened since then in my eyes.Two things: If you know the Player wouldn't want it, why do it? And, you'd know.I have to wonder if there's a tiny bit of power tripping in this, too. Is it purely alturistic or is there some sense of "he's alive becuase of me" going on, at least with some people who would do this, especially if you know the person wouldn't want it. There's a certian air of "I'm in charge even though nobody knows it" that goes with the manipulativity of cheating. I would guess that many do it not for the benefit of even their character, but instead because they want to see if they can get away with it.Now, whether or not motive is indication as to whether or not it is good or bad is probably left unanswered. I certainly have mixed feelings on it, and I can't narrow that down. I just thought I'd mention it.</blockquote>

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