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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sydbar" data-source="post: 2821496" data-attributes="member: 37524"><p>In the groups i've been in, the cheating is usually done to keep a character from dying, either by the dm, or by the player themself.  As someone who has gone through characters like a hot knife through butter, i know how hard it is to come up with historys, so much that i really don't make character historys anymore since spending hours to make a great history is worthless if the character dies because i fail a save 1 hour after i start playing the game, not to mention making a dm figure out how to get my character into the game when there is no reasonable way to do it, or i get to spend the whole game watching instead of playing since there is no way to introduce my character.  In the current games there has been extremely few kills in 16 years of gaming, and the few there has been, has been because of extreme player stupidity, mostly by the 2 kids in the group.  It is also a pain to try to help someone make a character while playing, which can cause me to miss details just because i'm the most experienced with the rules.  So from what i've seen is that fudging dice rolls can keep the group from being disrupted, but that doesn't mean i endorse it, just that i can understand it.</p></blockquote><p></p>