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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9145682" data-attributes="member: 23751">The gate towns are not really the outlands the plane.  Technically they are(and technically is the best kind of correct), but really they're far more the planes they border than the outlands.  If I want to run an adventure IN the outland, I have 2 pages(60-61). 4 pages if I include the 18 realms, but do you really think 2 pages for 18 realms is enough to tell you enough about each realm?I love this wrong argument.  The original setting is NOT the first boxed set.  It's ALL of the boxed sets.  They knew they were releasing the other stuff when they came up with the setting.  Whether you like it or not, it DOES include all the Planescape products released, because that's how 2e rolled.I reject your false dichotomy of "Next to no information on the planes" and "1000+ pages all at once."  WotC has a proven history of not releasing follow up setting books for 5e in anything resembling a reasonable amount of time.  As in none yet, even if they've promised some are coming.  They could easily have not put an adventure into this boxed set and had a good amount of information on the planes simply by using the pages spent on the adventure as setting material.  100 pages on the planes(96+4) is far better than 4, and at no additional cost.  Then we would have gotten, you know, an actual setting based in the planes.</blockquote>